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  • robertmneal93
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    • Jul 2018
    • 138

    Zastava SKs Destructive Device

    I was poking around the DOJ firearms page and came across this

    Zastava SKS Carbines 59/66 are considered destructive devices in California and therefore may not be purchased, possessed, imported, or kept for sale without a permit. These weapons were incorporated into the Yugoslavian Army in 1966 and are constructed with grenade launchers on them. The factory brochure claims that the grenade launcher launches a 22 mm (approximately .80 caliber) grenade. Based on the information in the factory brochure, this grenade launcher is a destructive device as defined in California Penal Code section 16460. Possession of such a device can be a felony.


    I thought the grenade launchers were a separate attachment on these rifles? I mean, I can buy a grenade launcher for my m1, lee enfield, etc for use with dummy rounds or display purposes. Why is the sks any different?
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    robertmneal93
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    • Jul 2018
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    More importantly, why does that first picture look like it was cropped in MSPaint?
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      Librarian
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      The grenade launcher is 'permanently' installed - and
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        robertmneal93
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        • Jul 2018
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        So does the bayonet have the top of the "O" cut out so you can still use it?
        And is the grenade launcher is an extension of the barrel, for all intents and purposes?
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          audiophil2
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          • Jan 2007
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          The launcher is pinned into the barrel. It can be removed but not easily. I have not found a punch strong enough to remove most of the pins so maybe 1 out of 10 launchers are easy to remove.

          Once the launcher is removed it is legal but you cannot even have the launcher in CA.
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            HUTCH 7.62
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            Why couldn’t one drill some holes in the launcher and turn it into a muzzle break?
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            • #7
              SVT-40
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              • Jan 2008
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              Originally posted by HUTCH 7.62
              Why couldn’t one drill some holes in the launcher and turn it into a muzzle break?
              Some factory Yugoslav 59/66 launchers had holes.

              If you were to drill your own holes, that would only mean the launcher had holes in it. It wouldn't change that it was a grenade launcher.

              Middle in below pic.


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                audiophil2
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                Because in CA only people can identify as what they are not.
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                • #9
                  SVT-40
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                  Originally posted by Librarian
                  The grenade launcher is 'permanently' installed - and
                  Librarian, the grenade launcher in your first pic is for the M70 series rifles (AK types).

                  It will not fit on the Yugo 59/66 or the 59/66A1 (SKS) type carbines. It was meant to screw onto the muzzle once the AK slant brake was removed.

                  The Yugo 59/66 and the 59/66A1 had grenade launchers screwed and pinned onto their barrels. These can be removed, however they are not meant to be as easily removed as the type for the AK.

                  As in your second pic.

                  These two grenade launcher types cannot be interchanged.
                  Last edited by SVT-40; 01-25-2019, 3:03 PM.
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                  Originally posted by fiddletown
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                  • #10
                    SVT-40
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                    • Jan 2008
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                    Originally posted by robertmneal93
                    So does the bayonet have the top of the "O" cut out so you can still use it?
                    The bayonet has a slot in the retainer (part of the "handle"), which locks into the corresponding lip on a cup which is also pinned onto the barrel. This locks the bayonet into it's fixed position.


                    Originally posted by robertmneal93
                    And is the grenade launcher is an extension of the barrel, for all intents and purposes?
                    It's a barrel attachment.
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                    Originally posted by fiddletown
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                      Librarian
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                      Originally posted by SVT-40
                      Librarian, the grenade launcher in your first pic is for the M70 series rifles (AK types).

                      It will not fit on the Yugo 59/66 or the 59/66A1 (SKS) type carbines. It was meant to screw onto the muzzle once the slant brake was removed.

                      The Yugo 59/66 and the 59/66A1 had grenade launchers screwed and pinned onto their barrels. These can be removed, however they are not meant to be as easily removed as the type for the AK.

                      As in your second pic.

                      These two grenade launcher types cannot be interchanged.
                      I didn't actually know that, but I couldn't find a close-up pic of the Zastava, and wanted to identify the GL portion. Thanks.

                      Mine's a Century 'sleeved' GL, so I couldn't take my own pic.
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                        KOOLKERRY
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                        • Oct 2010
                        • 315

                        The single detached launcher in the pic is called a Spigot.Not sure how many different variants and mm sizes they came with but I have seen them on Chinese SkS's before. Love to have one. There out there , Just not very common.
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