Unlicensed CCW

[will227457]

First off let me state that I do not have a CCW and I personally would not carry with out one......


that said when i read the paper everyday there is an article about someone getting shot, robbed, assulted etc......

anyone ever think about it?

the Bad Guys carry........

I think about it all the time and while I consider myself to be very self aware, and make a concious effort to stay out of trouble...if a BG wanted to shoot me or draw down on me I would be helpless.....

[Sam]

You mean the gov't didn't assign you a personal police officer 24/7?

[Henry47]

a ccw would be great, but realistically you can avoid most situations where you'd need one just by being careful and cautious of your surroundings. don't get me wrong, i'd love to ccw, but do you ever think that maybe we want them so bad because we're not allowed to have them?

[unamused]

^^ yeah but the idea is that when the SHTF, you are ready.

Riding motorcycles, there's this term ATGATT (all the gear all the time) meaning you dress for the fall, not for the ride. If we knew when we were gonna go down and only wore our gear then, it would be pretty awesome. But as most riders know, no matter how focused, observant, cautious, etc... you are, you almost never predict the fall.

Im not saying that you should carry without a permit, i know i wouldnt, but there are just too many variables to say that those situations can be avoided.

[The Wingnut]

the Bad Guys carry........

Unlicensed CCW makes you one of them.

DON'T DO IT. And certainly don't discuss doing it on a monitored forum.

[will227457]

as stated in my post I said I would not...and don't intend to

please reread before you hand off unsolicited advise I stated I do not have a CCW and will not carry with out one......

[The Wingnut]

anyone ever think about it?

You did indeed solicit my opinion / advice, and I gave it, not just to you, but to anyone reading this.

[proudamerican831]

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[Nanook]

The closest you're gonna get until AB-357 passes: :/

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=163061

[BONECUTTER]

The problem is, if you get caught you lose your right to own a gun for ever.

If the gun is registered to you it is not a felony for the first offense. I'm not telling anyone to do it....just giving the facts.

[GuyW]

I think a lot of folks, one time or another has thought about carrying for certain situations. The problem is, if you get caught you lose your right to own a gun for ever. All of the negative things that can happen to you far exceeds anything positive when carrying a gun without a CCW.

FUD.

PC 12031 and 12025 violations are misdemeanors, and except for the probation period, do not remove gun ownership rights.
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[GuyW]

If the gun is registered to you it is not a felony for the first offense. I'm not telling anyone to do it....just giving the facts.

And its not on the list of disqualifying convictions in either case (per info in a different thread).
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[Matt C]

Unlicensed CCW makes you one of them.

DON'T DO IT. And certainly don't discuss doing it on a monitored forum.

Umm, no exercising your second amendment rights does not make you a "bad guy", BS state laws notwithstanding. I'm not recommending that you break the law for a number of reasons, but breaking some laws does not automatically make you a bad guy IMO.

For some people who have no choice but to go into dangerous areas with little police presence it may be they only way they can protect themselves. I don't think you have any moral authority to deny them this right or call them "bad guys" for exercising it.

Your comments are pretty ironic considering your sig line..

[cgseanp1]

a ccw would be great, but realistically you can avoid most situations where you'd need one just by being careful and cautious of your surroundings. don't get me wrong, i'd love to ccw, but do you ever think that maybe we want them so bad because we're not allowed to have them?

I think a lot of folks, one time or another has thought about carrying for certain situations. The problem is, if you get caught you lose your right to own a gun for ever. All of the negative things that can happen to you far exceeds anything positive when carrying a gun without a CCW.

Wrong, and wrong!!! You can easily avoid situations by being careful...just like when you are shopping in the mall and some psycho decides to shoot the place up? I guess shopping is known to be a dangerous activity. Or you're in a hospital, a fast food joint, etc..

And, I wouldn't say the negatives far exceend anything positive, not even close. I guess you carrying and possibly having the chance to protect yourself, your FAMILY, or maybe other random people from some psycho isn't important.

Now, I don't carry any weapon, but this is stuff I have thought about.

Another shooting in the news, 2 people killed at a Michigan college. Could have been "easily" avoided if they were aware of there surroundings, right? And a "good guy" carrying illegally definitely couldn't have done anything good in this situation, right?

[jtippins]

Interesting conversation: For me, I have been accosted eleven or so times this year going to subway, the barbershop and starbux which are all in my normal routine.

Twice I have been threatened by force and just last Sunday evening a person flashed his firearm at me, stuck his head in my window and threw .25 caliber ammo in my face.

My response: Drove away praying...

Being safe is not always an option depending on where you can afford to live. Also, in my line of 'business' I deal with the criminal element more than most and I find myself in the middle of situations that put me and my family of six in harms way.

Personal defense doesn't always have to be with a firearm, yes, the best option, but you can carry certain tazers, knives etc with you. Also, I hold rank in CQC fighting styles which I did not learn until moving to CA from VA.

It is our right to protect ourselves and bear arms, however it is also our duty to uphold the law. My solution: I don't go to subway after 6PM anymore.

Sorry for the rant

My profession: I am a personal mentor to people in need and also a pastor of a local church in the East Bay.