Ghost gun

[Ramtuff39]

Delete please

[XD40Kyle]

Nice try ATF

[ScottyBnNC]

Your joking right?..Ha Ha funny!

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I haven't heard of any ghosts selling their guns.

[Ramtuff39]

I'm assuming that a stupid question. Sorry Im not up to date on everything!

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What is a ghost gun? Is it a gun that a ghost owns?

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What is a ghost gun? Is it a gun that a ghost owns?

^This.

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Circa 1974, Ghost Gun.

[Cokebottle]

Im not up to date on everything!

That's an understatement.
The ship sailed over 6 months ago for ANY unserialized and unregistered build. The law passed in 2016, so ya... you're a little behind.


But even prior to that, it has not been legal to buy or sell an unserialized firearm built after 1968, since 1968.
The moment you acquired a "ghost gun", if it was done legally (in any state, not just California), it ceased to be a "ghost gun"

[Ramtuff39]

https://www.americanweaponscomponents.com/can-continue-buy-build-july-1-2018-understanding-californias-ab-857-2

[Ramtuff39]

Thats why i asked

[Cokebottle]

Thats why i asked

July 1 2018 was 6 months ago.

[Ramtuff39]

F&*k forgot its 2019 bahahah

[dchan521]

Do ghost guns come with 30 magazine clips?

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https://www.americanweaponscomponent...rnias-ab-857-2

Thats why i asked

Info in the link was posted on 03-31-2018 and is now out-of-date.

Starting 07-01-2018, all self-made (80%) firearm must have CA DOJ marking info in order to be CA legal.
^Exemption to this:
1. Self-made firearms that are BATFE approved Title 2 firearms or have pre-2018 CA DOJ marking info engraved on it. [11 CCR 5508(a)]
2. Self-made long guns that were made before 12-16-1968. [11 CCR 5508(b)]
3. Self-made firearms that were voluntarily registered with CA DOJ before 07-01-2018. [11 CCR 5508(c)]
4. Firearms made by a 07-FFL. [11 CCR 5508(d)]
5. Self-made firearms that are considered C&R or antique. [11 CCR 5508(e)]

The CA DOJ marking info requires submitting a Unique Serial Number Application (USNA) via CFARS (CA DOJ online reporting system).
^This process will register the firearm with CA DOJ.

After receiving the CA DOJ marking info, the applicant will have 10 days to engrave it on the firearm. [11 CCR 5518]

After the info is engraved on the firearm, proof that it was done (pictures) must be submitted to CA DOJ. [11 CCR 5521]

Markings must be to a minimum depth of .003 inch and in a print size no smaller than 1/16 inch.
Markings must use Roman letters (A, B, C, etc.) and Arabic numerals (1, 2, 3, etc).

Markings must include: [11 CCR 5520]
1) CA DOJ issued Serial Numbers [11 CCR 5520(a)]
2) The model designation of the firearm. (what you call it) [11 CCR 5520(a)(2)(B)(1)]
3) The caliber the firearm is chambered in. [11 CCR 5520(a)(2)(B)(2)]
4) The first and last name of the maker of the firearm, as reported on the application. [11 CCR 5520(a)(2)(B)(3)]
5) City & State where the firearm was made. [11 CCR 5520(a)(2)(B)(4)]

If the firearm is made from a polymer receiver, then the serial number must be engraved on 3.7 ounces of 17-4 PH stainless steel that is embedded in the polymer in such a manner that removal will destroy or signifcantly damage the receiver. [11 CCR 5519]

Starting 01-01-2019, any self-made (80%) firearm that is not registered with CA DOJ can be subject to confiscation as evidence of violating CA self-made/assembled firearm laws.

Starting 01-01-2019, the transfer of ownership (selling, gifting, etc) of self-made (80%) firearms will be illegal. [PC 29180(d)(1)]
^Only exemption is for surrendering them to law enforcement for destruction. [PC 29180(d)(2),(3),(4)]

In addition, a self-made handgun needs to comply with CA unsafe handgun laws due to it being illegal to make an unsafe handgun in CA. [PC 32000(a)]

So, a self-made pistol needs to made as one of the following:
A. Dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistol.
B. Dimensionally compliant break-open single-shot pistol.
C. Semi-auto pistol with a chamber load indicator, magazine disconnect mechanism, microstamping array, and be CA DOJ safety tested.
D. Manually operated repeating pistol that is CA DOJ safety tested.
E. Single-shot pistol that is CA DOJ safety tested.

During 11-2018, CA DOJ BOF released notices prohibiting the conversion of dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistols and dimensionally compliant break-open single-shot pistols into other configurations, because doing so would be considered manufacturing an unsafe handgun.

Which means, in order to remain CA legal, dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistols and dimensionally compliant break-open single-shot pistols can not be modified into another operating configuration while in CA.