Difference between BG check and Waiting period

[Marauder2003]

here in NV it's instant

3 years i've lived here and never yet have had to go through the BG check either - having a CCW negates having to go through it - not sure if that applies in CA too - CA didn't feel an average joe citizen like me was worthy of self protection

that's a saving of about $25 per firearm purchase - having bought 8 firearms since, i've saved $200 on BG checks - my CCW cost me about $150, so it has paid for itself already

[MurdaJ]

Background check takes 1 min, unless the system is backed up ( when a dem is gonna win an election )

Ca background check was caused by a douche from NY visiting a turners in signal hill

[golfish]

Yes, in states that don't require a waiting period, the background check is supposed to be instant.

The 10 wait is just cooling off period like you said.

The new ammo background check is supposed to be instant as well, there isn't any waiting period past the time it takes the clerk to scan your ID.

I crack up thinking about the waiting /cooling off period. Every time I get mad and want to shoot somebody, I want to use a new gun, not one of the 30+ guns I already have.

[mafbloggerdanny]

I was told by an FFL that background checks MUST be completed within 72 hours by law, even tho most states can do it much faster as people have already pointed out.

[wpod]

I now live in AZ. I've had my AZ CCW. The CCW is recognized as my background check.
Bought a revolver here in AZ. Transaction complete in about 10 minutes. Another 30 minutes of gun talk ensued.
I could have also bought a holster and ammo at the same time and walked out with it loaded and carried open or concealed. (No permit required for concealed carry here)
There is no waiting period.
PPT doesn't require an FFL either.

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[tanks]

It is amazing that the 10 day waiting period applies to people that have CCWs or other firearms.

One is going to commit suicide or a crime with a new weapon when he/she already has some others?

[mstlaurent]

I was told by an FFL that background checks MUST be completed within 72 hours by law, even tho most states can do it much faster as people have already pointed out.

This happened to me with the first gun(s) I bought here in AZ. I bought a rifle and a handgun at a local gun shop. The NICS came back DELAYED. No idea why, maybe because I had just moved here. I came back to the shop three days later, it was still showing as DELAYED, so he gave me my guns. I went and got my CCW after that, haven't had to do a NICS check since.

[Humboldt Leatherneck]

In Michigan for long guns all it takes is a phone call for a background check, and then you pay your money and can walk out with your firearm.

To buy a handgun/ pistol without a Michigan CCW License - one must first get a permit to purchase a handgun from the local law enforcement, before making a purchase. Once you pay your money, then one can walk out the door with no waiting period thru the FFL dealer.

Last month I just shipped a .30 caliber rifle to my nephew in Detroit using my local FFL, and he was able to pick up his purchase the day it arrived at the FFL near his residence. He did have to pay the FFL dealer for processing his 4473 form.

[onelonehorseman]

The waiting period has little to do with background check, and everything to do with impeding the speedy transfer of firearms.

When it was first proposed, it was labeled as a "cooling off period" to keep hot-heads from buying guns for immediate use in bad-deed-doings. It seems the 10 days was a random number; could have just as easily been 2 days or 20.

In reality, it was just an early step in the system of control that that left leaning liberals and socialists strive for.

[Doheny]

It is amazing that the 10 day waiting period applies to people that have CCWs or other firearms.

One is going to commit suicide or a crime with a new weapon when he/she already has some others?

This.


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[spfabrication]

If you just purchased the suppressor, what form did you take to your PD? the LEO copy of the form 4 doesn't get submitted until after approval which is quite a bit after purchase and form submission. Was it for printing?

[audiophil2]

If you just purchased the suppressor, what form did you take to your PD? the LEO copy of the form 4 doesn't get submitted until after approval which is quite a bit after purchase and form submission. Was it for printing?

He probably submitted a form 4 and 5320.23 with all responsible parties

Wrong. CLEO is allowed to do their own background check if they choose and can tell ATF to deny if they discover a prohibited person.

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[spfabrication]

He probably submitted a form 4 and 5320.23 with all responsible parties

Wrong. CLEO is allowed to do their own background check if they choose and can tell ATF to deny if they discover a prohibited person.

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Not in Idaho. The cleo copy is only an incidental mailed to the state attorney generals office after ATF approval.

[CoopsDad]

The FFL I use in Waco gets the BC check almost instantly. I paid cash and, both times, the approval came back before the money was counted.

Bought some more PPT. Totally legal but the first few times I still felt like CA DOJ was gonna jump out of the bushes and take me down.

[Quiet]

Difference between BG check and Waiting period

I never really thought about it, but I realize that these are actually two separate processes. I always assumed the waiting period WAS the background check.

So I'm curious how long does the actual background check take? Will it be different for Ammo and firearms?

For some reason the words BACKGROUND CHECK makes me think there's a room of people saying things like "pull out the subjects 3rd grade report card" Am I right to assume that there is just a list that's cross checked of people who can't have a firearm? I fear things are going to get really confusing this year.

For CA...
Before 1975, the waiting period was a "cooling off" period with no CA background check being done.

Starting 01-01-1975, the CA waiting period was 15 days and the waiting period was the time it took to conduct a background check.

But, advances in technology has made the background check be done faster.
In 1996, CA legislature passed legislation to reduce the waiting period due to advances in technology.
At that time, CA DOJ BOF stated they required a minimum of 10 days to conduct a background check for a firearm transfer.
So on 04-01-1997, the waiting period was reduced to 10 days.

During 2015-2016, due to the lawsuit challenging the CA waiting period (Silvester v Harris)...
CA DOJ BOF admitted the background check takes less than one hour to complete and that the waiting period is a "cooling off" period.

CA DOJ could not provide any proof that a waiting period stops or reduces any criminal activity.

Judge believed that the waiting period was still a good idea, but one that should only apply to first time buyers and should not apply to non-prohibited persons that already own firearms.
^Ruling that meant if you are one of following you would be exempt from the CA waiting period:
1. Person with valid COE.
2. Person with valid CA LTC permit.
3. Person with registered firearms in AFS.

CA DOJ appealed the ruling to The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, which upheld the CA waiting period (applies to everyone) in 12-2016.

This was then appealed to SCOTUS in 2017 and in 02-2018, SCOTUS decided to not hear the appeal.
^Means the Ninth Circuit Court ruling (waiting period applies to everyone) stands.


The background check for ammunition transfers is suppose to be an "instant check" (done in less than one hour).