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  • IceKnight366
    Junior Member
    • May 2018
    • 95

    Question for LEO in CA

    I recently spoke to an officer in CA that said he, and other officers, are not allowed to practice shooting anywhere outside of two areas 1) Police ranges or 2) Those few select places policy agencies have designated are safe for police to shoot, irregardless of whether they are on OR off duty. That seems strange. That means police can't shoot at public ranges, they can't shoot on private property, they can't shoot on BLM land, etc...

    What about training courses? What if they wanted to train with Travis Haley or John Lovell? What if it's family tradition to camp out at BLM land and shoot with the family? What if you have a friend or family, who is not a LEO, whom you like to shoot with regularly at gun ranges? Are all of these off limits? Is if different for different agencies? What are people's experiences with this?

    For respect and privacy reasons I'm not going to state the city in which I spoke to this officer.

    Thank you!
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    phdo
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    • Jan 2010
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    • #3
      DentonandSasquatchShow
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2018
      • 1343

      Maybe he was talking about his service firearm.
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      • #4
        0ddl0t
        Banned
        • Jul 2018
        • 60

        Maybe he meant while in uniform? I shoot with LEO all the time at all sorts of ranges (including one officer's backyard range)

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        • #5
          nadodave
          Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 440

          I see lots of ranges offer membership discounts for law enforcement, so something must be not quite accurate.

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          • #6
            phdo
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            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Jan 2010
            • 3870

            Originally posted by DentonandSasquatchShow
            Maybe he was talking about his service firearm.

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            • #7
              badfish71
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 951

              Originally posted by IceKnight366
              I recently spoke to an officer in CA that said he, and other officers, are not allowed to practice shooting anywhere outside of two areas 1) Police ranges or 2) Those few select places policy agencies have designated are safe for police to shoot, irregardless of whether they are on OR off duty. That seems strange. That means police can't shoot at public ranges, they can't shoot on private property, they can't shoot on BLM land, etc...

              What about training courses? What if they wanted to train with Travis Haley or John Lovell? What if it's family tradition to camp out at BLM land and shoot with the family? What if you have a friend or family, who is not a LEO, whom you like to shoot with regularly at gun ranges? Are all of these off limits? Is if different for different agencies? What are people's experiences with this?

              For respect and privacy reasons I'm not going to state the city in which I spoke to this officer.

              Thank you!
              Not totally far fetched. There MAY be a department with such a policy. That being said it is not a common policy I have ever heard.

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              • #8
                Yodaman
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 2749

                Originally posted by badfish71
                Not totally far fetched. There MAY be a department with such a policy. That being said it is not a common policy I have ever heard.

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                • #9
                  phroggunner
                  Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 225

                  I think the most likely explanation is he was just making excuses not to shoot with the op.

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                  • #10
                    Yodaman
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 2749

                    Originally posted by phroggunner
                    I think the most likely explanation is he was just making excuses not to shoot with the op.


                    Hahaha could be.

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                    • #11
                      OCEquestrian
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jun 2017
                      • 6898

                      Originally posted by IceKnight366
                      I recently spoke to an officer in CA that said he, and other officers, are not allowed to practice shooting anywhere outside of two areas 1) Police ranges or 2) Those few select places policy agencies have designated are safe for police to shoot, irregardless of whether they are on OR off duty. That seems strange. That means police can't shoot at public ranges, they can't shoot on private property, they can't shoot on BLM land, etc...

                      What about training courses? What if they wanted to train with Travis Haley or John Lovell? What if it's family tradition to camp out at BLM land and shoot with the family? What if you have a friend or family, who is not a LEO, whom you like to shoot with regularly at gun ranges? Are all of these off limits? Is if different for different agencies? What are people's experiences with this?

                      For respect and privacy reasons I'm not going to state the city in which I spoke to this officer.

                      Thank you!

                      Highly unlikely.. what you ran into is a common type of LEO who only practices the couple times a year when he has to qualify...

                      Departments only use certain ranges for "official" training / qualifying.
                      "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ----Sen. Barry Goldwater

                      Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ----Benjamin Franklin

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                      • #12
                        Rogue187
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 1157

                        Sounds like an officer with no motivation to shoot or practice beyond what is required by department standards.

                        Most departments will provide ammo for the officer if they are shooting the department gun. My prior department required us to carry our duty and only the duty gun. They provided holsters for however you wanted to carry the gun.

                        Only requirement was the duty gun.

                        You really cannot restrict an officer from seeking out additional training for the betterment of himself and perhaps the department.

                        Sorry but you got fed a line of crap.

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                        • #13
                          Neil McCauley
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 13676

                          A guy told me one time "don't let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat from around the corner"
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                          • #14
                            OCEquestrian
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jun 2017
                            • 6898

                            Yup.. just another tool on the belt...
                            "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ----Sen. Barry Goldwater

                            Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ----Benjamin Franklin

                            NRA life member
                            SAF life member
                            CRPA member

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                            • #15
                              scott36153
                              Junior Member
                              • Jun 2017
                              • 16

                              Originally posted by IceKnight366
                              I recently spoke to an officer in CA that said he, and other officers, are not allowed to practice shooting anywhere outside of two areas 1) Police ranges or 2) Those few select places policy agencies have designated are safe for police to shoot, irregardless of whether they are on OR off duty. That seems strange. That means police can't shoot at public ranges, they can't shoot on private property, they can't shoot on BLM land, etc...

                              What about training courses? What if they wanted to train with Travis Haley or John Lovell? What if it's family tradition to camp out at BLM land and shoot with the family? What if you have a friend or family, who is not a LEO, whom you like to shoot with regularly at gun ranges? Are all of these off limits? Is if different for different agencies? What are people's experiences with this?

                              For respect and privacy reasons I'm not going to state the city in which I spoke to this officer.

                              Thank you!
                              I have 17 years on the job and can tell you that is 100% false. On duty in uniform yes we can only shoot at a department range for qualification/training. But off duty we can shoot any place it is legal to do so.

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