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  • ripcurlksm
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 3146

    Gun myths/tips for new shooters...

    List em if you got'em:

    SAFETY
    The Four Rules:
    1) All guns are always loaded!
    2) Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy!
    3) Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target!
    4) Always be sure of your target and what is behind it!

    -There are no accidental discharges, only negligent discharges. Check that a weapon is unloaded every time you pick one up or it leaves your possession and one day you will be surprised.

    -Always and keep your finger off the ******* trigger and pointed in a safe direction.

    TRANSPORTATION
    -Pistols generally must be be locked and unloaded to transport (Update from user Decoligny: You can legally open carry (unloaded) a pistol in a vehicle as long as you are not within 1,000 feet of a school zone. ).

    -Longarms should be transported unloaded, but do not require a lock.

    -If you are transporting a firearm on a plane, all firearms must be locked and unloaded, and generally require that ammunition brought stored in a separate container, usually requiring the original packaging the ammo came in. You are usually also limited to the amount of ammo you can bring. Call your airline ahead of time to learn about their policies. When you are at the check in counter, declare your firearm and make sure you are present for the TSA inspection of YOUR firearm. After all you packed it properly and locked it, it is YOUR responsibility that any 3rd party inspecting your firearm leave the firearm in the same manner it was presented in AFTER inspection (ie- unloaded, locked, etc.). In general, traveling with firearms is pretty straight forward and is pretty smooth without incident. Print out the TSA rules for transporting firearms and show it to anyone who will not allow for you to observe the inspection of your firearm.

    -You can transport magazines loaded as long as they are not in or attached to the firearm.

    SIGHTING IN
    -Move your rear sight in the same direction you want your point of impact to move. Move your front sight in the opposite direction you want your point of impact to go.

    -A gun that shoots 1" MOA: groups 10 shots at 100 yards within one inch, groups 10 shots within half-an-inch at 50 yards, and groups 10 shots within two inches at 200 yards.

    -When shooting with iron sights on your rifle, pistol or shotgun-- focus on the front sight only. Your rear sight and target should be BLURRY, your front sight should be in FOCUS on your BLURRY target.

    -If you experience reduced recoil/raport check the barrel for a squib before firing your next round.

    -For sighting in your AR-15 using the Revised Improved Battlesight Zero (as seen on AR15.com), here are the click adjustments for fixed and detachable carry handles here:
    Detachable carry handle marked 6/3
    25: 6/3 +4 or +6 (pending on ammo)
    50 6/3 -4
    100: 6/3 -6
    200: 6/3 -4
    300: 6/3
    400: "4" setting
    500: "5" setting
    600: "6" setting
    Fixed handle marked 8/3:
    25: 8/3 +2 or +3 (pending on ammo)
    50 8/3 -2
    100: 8/3 -3
    200: 8/3 -2
    300: 8/3
    400: "4" setting
    500: "5" setting
    600: "6" setting
    CLEANING
    -The reason you always want to clean your barrel from the chamber to the muzzle is because using a cleaning rod can over time damage/wear down the muzzle rifling/crown-- which will effect accuracy because these worn elements are the last thing the bullet is affected by as it leaves the barrel.

    MISC.
    -Avoid the 'idiot scratch' on your 1911 by laying the pistol on the bench and installing the slide stop with both hands, sweeping the ramped part up laterally to depress the plunger tube, then pushing the slide stop fully into the frame. If you do scratch it, God will notice and will not be pleased-- as he too favors the 1911.

    -Magazines and clips are not the same. Google it.

    -Your water supply should outweigh your ammunition supply.

    -Keep it clean.

    -Rust & politicians have one thing in common

    -.45 caliber is better than 9mm

    -Its generally fine to plink with wolf or other steel cased ammo. the only drawback is that the steel case does not expand in the chamber (like softer brass) as the round is fired which causes the dirty gases to escape rearward into the chamber, making your chamber more dirty than usual.

    -Dry-firing is generally fine to do in all center-fire handguns and rifles. Rimfire's should not be dry-fired without a snap-cap.

    -Calls for cease fire at the range mean to stop firing immediately, don't try to quickly squeeze off your last round or two. When you hear a cease fire call, remove the magazine (if applicable), lock open the action or slide, remove any ammunition and ensure it is unloaded and place it on the bench facing down range.
    Last edited by ripcurlksm; 04-10-2009, 9:43 AM.
    Kevin
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    Capt. Speirs
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2008
    • 1232

    Not bad, thanks!
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    • #3
      Deadred7o7
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2007
      • 620

      Good stuff form Jeff Cooper.
      "Do you care about freedom? Dreams may have inspired it, and wishes prompted it, but only war and weapons have made it yours." Jeff Cooper

      Order of the Brethren of Canary Asses #19

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      • #4
        Greg-Dawg
        Banned
        • Oct 2006
        • 7793

        Take a class.

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        • #5
          spareparts
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2008
          • 738

          Here's some that come to my mind:

          -Don't anticipate the hammer fall.

          -Don't jerk the trigger.

          -When shooting irons, focus on the front sight tip.

          -If you experience reduced recoil/raport check the barrel for a squib before firing your next round.

          -Know your target and what is behind it.

          -Calls for cease fire mean to stop firing, don't try to quickly squeeze off your last round or two.

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          • #6
            Tillers_Rule
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 1034

            Wear hearing and eye protection
            sigpic
            "Don't steal, the Government hates competition."

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            • #7
              Decoligny
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Mar 2008
              • 10615

              Good list!
              Last edited by Decoligny; 04-10-2009, 10:18 AM.
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              If you haven't seen it with your own eyes,
              or heard it with your own ears,
              don't make it up with your small mind,
              or spread it with your big mouth.

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              • #8
                Sandman511
                Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 236

                Good info.... thanks for the effort!!

                Thanks for the effort/info
                " We will either find a way, or make one "
                - Hannibal

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                • #9
                  glock_this
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 8225

                  you can't turn a gun sideways like they do in the movies and expect to hit so don't be a douche bag and even try it
                  10 +1 in the chamber

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                  • #10
                    Wyseguy
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 1204

                    This pretty much sums up the Handgun Safety Test!

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                    • #11
                      Vanguard
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 7235

                      "-Move your rear sight in the same direction you want your point of impact to move. Move your front sight in the opposite direction you want your point of impact to go."

                      Isn't it the opposite of this?
                      "We're surrounded.....that simplifies our problem."
                      -Chesty Puller-

                      "Don't forget that you're First Marines! Not all the Communists in hell can overrun you!"
                      -Chesty Puller-

                      -Dimitri, I'm sorry they're jamming your radar and flying so low, but they're trained to do it. You know, it's, it's initiative!-

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                      • #12
                        DRM6000
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 5809

                        don't shoot faster than you can guarantee the hit.

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                        • #13
                          ripcurlksm
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 3146

                          no don't think so -- try using your index fingers as a front/rear sight and try it.

                          Ive updated the list and organized it a little bit better, and I pulled a few from spare parts.

                          Ive been shooting since being in the Scouts many years ago and I've been actively shooting for about 4 years now, and I've been wanting to compile a list of things I learned over the past few years to help others. It seems like there are lots of new members here on the forums and lots of new folks to shooting in general. Hope this helps. Keep posting and Ill add to the list.
                          Last edited by ripcurlksm; 04-09-2009, 4:15 PM.
                          Kevin

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                          • #14
                            Vanguard
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 7235

                            Originally posted by ripcurlksm
                            no don't think so -- try using your index fingers as a front/rear sight and try it.
                            Right, looking down the side of my index finger, if the tip (front sight) moves right, the impact point goes right too.

                            Oh...and good list by the way.
                            "We're surrounded.....that simplifies our problem."
                            -Chesty Puller-

                            "Don't forget that you're First Marines! Not all the Communists in hell can overrun you!"
                            -Chesty Puller-

                            -Dimitri, I'm sorry they're jamming your radar and flying so low, but they're trained to do it. You know, it's, it's initiative!-

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                            • #15
                              Capt. Speirs
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 1232

                              Originally posted by glock_this
                              you can't turn a gun sideways like they do in the movies and expect to hit so don't be a douche bag and even try it
                              Watch the Magpul Tactical videos, they shoot side ways and hit s***.

                              Last edited by Capt. Speirs; 04-09-2009, 8:48 PM.
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