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  • John Browning
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2006
    • 8089

    Hearing Protection

    I am thinking of finally upgrading my decade old Peltor Shotgunners to electronic ear protection as I plan to start taking some classes and would also like to wear them while hunting. These would be used indoor, outdoor, and with some unpleasant rifles like a 16in .308 with a muzzle break.

    I already have tinnitus and hearing loss from decades of hunting ducks, doves and such so I'm already kind of deaf. I'm hoping to spend under $100. Here are the ones I'm considering. Any feedback from you guys is appreciated. I'm leaning towards the Peltors because I have been really happy with my Shotgunners. I'd also be willing to spend more if there was a set that was twice as good at twice the price...but being hard of hearing already I don't know that I'd be able to notice.

    Thanks!

    Walkers Razor Slim @$41

    Peltor Range Guard @$50


    Howard Leight @$50
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  • #2
    CAL.BAR
    CGSSA OC Chapter Leader
    • Nov 2007
    • 5632

    FTIW, I think anything below 22NRR is not worth it. I currently use Peltors but they are large and bulky. I recently tried the Howard Leighs outside and thought that the 22NRR they offered wasn't enough even for outside. (granted we were shooting large caliber weapons). But at an indoor range, you'd want AT LEAST 22 if not more NRR.

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    • #3
      Mr.Cip
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2013
      • 783

      I bought the Walker planning for it to replace my Howard Leight. I did end up liking the Walker Razor better.
      The Howard Leight Impact is now used by friends that I take shooting.


      Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

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      • #4
        John Browning
        Calguns Addict
        • May 2006
        • 8089

        Originally posted by Mr.Cip
        I bought the Walker planning for it to replace my Howard Leight. I did end up liking the Walker Razor better.
        The Howard Leight Impact is now used by friends that I take shooting.


        Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
        Thanks, that's the heart of what I wanted to know. It's down to Walker vs. Peltor.
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        Originally posted by KWalkerM
        eh why bring logic into this, that makes too much sense... besides when you have bested a fool, you have accomplished nothing and he is a fool.

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        • #5
          Yodaman
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 2749

          Do the research and protect your ears.

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          • #6
            Dirtlaw
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Apr 2018
            • 3480

            Good advice

            I re-upped my membership at the range closest to my home. I saw this guy standing behind me. He sure looked familiar. Turned out he was my audiologist. I had lost track of him after he moved. Last time I was in he asked me what I was doing because my hearing had gotten so bad. Maybe now I can get some really good advice on hearing protection

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            • #7
              tnlrat37
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 2166

              Bought my Walker razors for 29$ at Costco about a month ago, I like them but eyepro hurts wearing after a few hours being pushed into your head under the earcups. I was running a shotgun range for Boy Scouts and had them on all day. Not sure how to avoid that with any over ear pro. Most range visits are only an hour or two so not that big of a deal.
              "People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

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              • #8
                Unsilenced
                Member
                • Jul 2016
                • 394

                I find the Howard Leight to work well, but I usually double up my hearing protection, either with disposable foam plugs or a rubber pair I found online. With that setup I've never found anything uncomfortably loud, but can hear conversations normally thinks to the amplification from the Leights.

                I don't know if I'd ever wear just muffs without plugs underneath. Too much chance of them slipping when you're getting your cheek against a stock.

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                • #9
                  dummykid
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2016
                  • 1296

                  I order the custom ear plug from Superior Sound Technology. It comes with Hock Noisebreak, so it will converting any loud noise to 80-85 dB. I paid $180ish but I believe it is cheaper than hearing aid.
                  In addition to the SST ear plug, I also have:
                  1. 64 Audio ear plug -26db of isolation.
                  2. MSA 10153220 Supreme Pro-X
                  3. 3M Peltor Comtac III

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                  • #10
                    nadodave
                    Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 440

                    I wear foam plugs with the eectronic clamshell over them.

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                    • #11
                      L84CABO
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 8642

                      Just some general comments...

                      Expect that you may still need/want to wear plugs with the electronic muffs over them. Most electronics have a slight delay between the loud boom and when the electronics clip off. Whether this delay is quick enough can depend on your ears. It's best IMO to double up with electronics muffs and especially indoors. Put the plugs in and turn the volume all the way up. Still much better than non electronic muffs.

                      You are straight crazy if you don't buy a set of muffs that can accept the gel cups. The gel cups are miles more comfortable than non gel cups and do a much better job at sealing out sound in general but particularly around glasses. If your intent is to use these for a class where you may be living in them for a full day or multiple days, you absolutely want the gel cups. This is just my opinion.
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                      Fighter Pilot

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                      • #12
                        sakosf
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 1580

                        Originally posted by John Browning
                        I am thinking of finally upgrading my decade old Peltor Shotgunners to electronic ear protection as I plan to start taking some classes and would also like to wear them while hunting. These would be used indoor, outdoor, and with some unpleasant rifles like a 16in .308 with a muzzle break.

                        I already have tinnitus and hearing loss from decades of hunting ducks, doves and such so I'm already kind of deaf. I'm hoping to spend under $100. Here are the ones I'm considering. Any feedback from you guys is appreciated. I'm leaning towards the Peltors because I have been really happy with my Shotgunners. I'd also be willing to spend more if there was a set that was twice as good at twice the price...but being hard of hearing already I don't know that I'd be able to notice.

                        Thanks!

                        Walkers Razor Slim @$41

                        Peltor Range Guard @$50


                        Howard Leight @$50
                        Tinnitus is no fun. I have had it for the past 3 years. Majority of the time, I manage to ignore it. The ear plugs under muffs I think are worth a try. No kidding about a 16" .308 with brake being loud. About 40 years ago I owned a HK91 .308. Really loud and being much younger and a bit foolish, I recall my ears ringing after discharging 100 yrds in a canyon shooting spot in the foothills.....wearing NO muffs. Also had a .41 mag & .38 to shoot that day.

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                        • #13
                          1Carguy
                          Junior Member
                          • Jun 2018
                          • 81

                          I've got the Walker Razor and I like them but they are a little tight. Maybe I've got a fat head. Sometimes I think they don't muffle as much as they should, so I might try some foam ear plugs under them.

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                          • #14
                            Markinsac
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 1004

                            While more expensive, the Sordin digital units are the best I've worn and own. I have a set of Peltor, but they don't compare in my opinion. Those are OK for casual use, or letting someone use for the occasional trip.

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                            • #15
                              damon1272
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 4857

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