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  • ERdept
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Apr 2009
    • 4698

    SSE, Single Shot Exemption, Is this still valid in 2019?

    I talked to a custom 1911 maker and they say that there are less SSE dealers in Ca, but still here.


    Is this true?
  • #2
    OCEquestrian
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2017
    • 6899

    Originally posted by ERdept
    I talked to a custom 1911 maker and they say that there are less SSE dealers in Ca, but still here.


    Is this true?
    Nope.. the SSE for semi autos went away in January 2015. I think there is still a single action exemption for revolvers to let you bring DA/SA revolves into the state that are not on roster.
    "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ----Sen. Barry Goldwater

    Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ----Benjamin Franklin

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    • #3
      cindynles
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 2806

      You can still do SSE 2.0, the firearms must never have been semi-auto. So you can bring in virgin frames.
      "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." B.Franklin,1759

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      • #4
        waygeekierthanu
        Vendor/Retailer
        • Sep 2010
        • 2719

        It's still possible, we do some SSE 2.0 stuff

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        • #5
          OCEquestrian
          Calguns Addict
          • Jun 2017
          • 6899

          Originally posted by cindynles
          You can still do SSE 2.0, the firearms must never have been semi-auto. So you can bring in virgin frames.
          I had no idea... thanks for the update.
          "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ----Sen. Barry Goldwater

          Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ----Benjamin Franklin

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          • #6
            Scratch705
            I need a LIFE!!
            • May 2009
            • 12530

            Originally posted by cindynles
            You can still do SSE 2.0, the firearms must never have been semi-auto. So you can bring in virgin frames.
            so what is to stop gun makers from just making a "CA Special" frame of all their pistols?

            sell only the bare frame to dealers here in CA.

            then make available the internals and complete slide like how Sig does with their P320 stuff either through their own website, or also at dealers.

            cause the law only states that the "gun" must be single shot at the time of sale/transfer. but it doesn't need to stay single shot afterwards.
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            • #7
              riderr
              Calguns Addict
              • Sep 2013
              • 6632

              Originally posted by Scratch705
              so what is to stop gun makers from just making a "CA Special" frame of all their pistols?

              sell only the bare frame to dealers here in CA.

              then make available the internals and complete slide like how Sig does with their P320 stuff either through their own website, or also at dealers.

              cause the law only states that the "gun" must be single shot at the time of sale/transfer. but it doesn't need to stay single shot afterwards.
              In two words - bad publicity. Under the original SSE, the manufacturers were not involved. It was all up to FFL and the customer. Now, if any big manufacturer steps in the game, they will be immediately crucified and damned by you know who.

              SSE2 rules are much stricter, also CADOJ made their position clear on changing the SSE configuration back to semi-auto.

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              • #8
                mshill
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2012
                • 4451

                Originally posted by riderr
                SSE2 rules are much stricter, also CADOJ made their position clear on changing the SSE configuration back to semi-auto.
                Yea, now it is considered manufacturing.
                The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.

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                • #9
                  Califpatriot
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 2438

                  Originally posted by mshill
                  Yea, now it is considered manufacturing.
                  No, DOJ doesn't say that. They say it "may" be considered manufacturing:

                  Alterations of a single shot pistol (i.e. changing upper receivers, connecting gas tubes) may also be considered manufacturing an unsafe handgun. See California Penal Code sections 31900-31910 for the definition of unsafe handguns and 32000(a) for more information on illegal acts involving unsafe handguns.
                  Also, 32000 is easily avoided by doing the putative "manufacturing" out of state.
                  In case it wasn't obvious, nothing I write here should be interpreted as legal advice.

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                  • #10
                    ugimports
                    Vendor/Retailer
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 6250

                    Originally posted by ERdept
                    I talked to a custom 1911 maker and they say that there are less SSE dealers in Ca, but still here.


                    Is this true?
                    Custom 1911 maker can make a custom single shot 1911 from the ground up to sell into CA as an exempt pistol if they want.
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                    • #11
                      Califpatriot
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 2438

                      Originally posted by Scratch705
                      so what is to stop gun makers from just making a "CA Special" frame of all their pistols?

                      sell only the bare frame to dealers here in CA.

                      then make available the internals and complete slide like how Sig does with their P320 stuff either through their own website, or also at dealers.

                      cause the law only states that the "gun" must be single shot at the time of sale/transfer. but it doesn't need to stay single shot afterwards.
                      Not enough demand. There's very few dealers who would do it. There are relatively few gun owners who would go through the hassle. You would need a different conversion kit for every gun model.

                      What would have to happen would be as follows:

                      1. Glock/Sig/S&W/whatever sells a VIRGIN frame to a FFL07/ITAR holder in CA.
                      2. CA FFL07 assembles it into a bolt action, single shot, 6"+ barrelled, 10.5"+ OAL handgun using something similar to this kit:

                      3. FFL07 is then free to sell it to the general public.
                      4. John Q. Public is then free to take off the Inlander-style kit on his next trip out of state (or maybe within state, depending on your interpretation of the law.
                      In case it wasn't obvious, nothing I write here should be interpreted as legal advice.

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                      • #12
                        Yodaman
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 2749

                        Originally posted by waygeekierthanu
                        It's still possible, we do some SSE 2.0 stuff

                        Sent from Mobile, visit us at https://www.2azone.com


                        Good to know.

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                        • #13
                          ERdept
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 4698

                          Originally posted by waygeekierthanu
                          It's still possible, we do some SSE 2.0 stuff

                          Sent from Mobile, visit us at https://www.2azone.com
                          Hey there, I just talked to Adam at Atlas, and want to get the Titan 2011.

                          Im gonna PM you.

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                          • #14
                            SmallShark
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2011
                            • 1395

                            Originally posted by ERdept
                            Hey there, I just talked to Adam at Atlas, and want to get the Titan 2011.

                            Im gonna PM you.
                            how the heck were you able to reach him? all i got was a woman with "i dont give a **** attitude". that's why i switched from Titan to a Limcat.

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                            • #15
                              ugimports
                              Vendor/Retailer
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 6250

                              Limcat will do single shot setups. I've received at least 1 from them that started life as a Single Shot.. I don't recall what they charged the customer, but when you're paying for a custom gun the extra couple hundred bucks I'm sure is worth it.
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