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  • 1911man
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2006
    • 1575

    Cowboy ammo question

    Why is cowboy ammo more expensive that regular plinking ammo? Second question. Can a person load 357 magnum cases to 800 fps.? When I use 38 specials my rifle has some problems cycling, that is why I am asking about the magnum case, they cycle better. Why do some manufacturers load with light bullets and 158 grain heavy bullets, with the velocity the same? Recoil? I am shooting a carbine.
  • #2
    Dutch3
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Oct 2010
    • 14181

    I don't know about a carbine, but I loaded some 158g .38SPL with Trail Boss for my J-frame snubby. I thought my wife might find the recoil more manageable.

    While they were pleasant to shoot, the bullets were tumbling and keyholing the target at about 15 yds.
    Just taking up space in (what is no longer) the second-worst small town in California.

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    • #3
      bobbybutler.rb
      Junior Member
      • Sep 2015
      • 22

      Originally posted by 1911man
      Why is cowboy ammo more expensive that regular plinking ammo? Second question. Can a person load 357 magnum cases to 800 fps.? When I use 38 specials my rifle has some problems cycling, that is why I am asking about the magnum case, they cycle better. Why do some manufacturers load with light bullets and 158 grain heavy bullets, with the velocity the same? Recoil? I am shooting a carbine.
      I hope your not firing 38 specials in a 357 magnum!. Because of the shorter case you can get lead spalling from a miniscule change in alignment, can cause catastrophic failure and danger of exploding your chamber.

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      • #4
        dustoff31
        Calguns Addict
        • Apr 2007
        • 8209

        Originally posted by bobbybutler.rb
        I hope your not firing 38 specials in a 357 magnum!. Because of the shorter case you can get lead spalling from a miniscule change in alignment, can cause catastrophic failure and danger of exploding your chamber.
        Sent from my SM-T837V using Tapatalk
        If the cylinder was that far out of time, it wouldn't matter whether you were firing .38s or .357s.

        Shooting .38s out of a .357 revolver is a very common thing.
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        • #5
          AGGRO
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 2792

          Originally posted by bobbybutler.rb
          I hope your not firing 38 specials in a 357 magnum!. Because of the shorter case you can get lead spalling from a miniscule change in alignment, can cause catastrophic failure and danger of exploding your chamber.

          Sent from my SM-T837V using Tapatalk
          Does the maker say it can shoot .38?

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          • #6
            1911man
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2006
            • 1575

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            • #7
              357magnum
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2014
              • 1219

              I load all my 38 spl in magnum cases, been doing this for many years.
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              • #8
                Triple765
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2018
                • 691

                Originally posted by 1911man
                Why is cowboy ammo more expensive that regular plinking ammo?
                I'm assuming because it's specialty ammo made in smaller quantities.
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                • #9
                  dohc
                  Member
                  • Oct 2016
                  • 173

                  revolver wise i do the same as well. 38 spl loads on 357 brass.

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                  • #10
                    FISHNFRANK
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 1023

                    I’ll venture to say that more .38 Special has been fired in .357 chambers than the .357 magnum has. The above post #3 is rediculous

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                    • #11
                      alpha_romeo_XV
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 2830

                      I've been reloading light loads in 357 rather than 38 cases for a Marlin 1894 for several years so I can use cheaper plated bullets instead of full metal jacket and still have good feeding. One of the benefits of reloading. I also load some rifle loads too hot to shoot in my S&W 686 so need to keep them labeled clearly.

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                      • #12
                        plumbum
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2010
                        • 5394

                        Originally posted by Triple765
                        I'm assuming because it's specialty ammo made in smaller quantities.
                        This ^
                        And the fact that SASS people usually spend money to be period correct.
                        Originally posted by ysr_racer
                        Please don't bring logic and reason into an interwebs discussion

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                        • #13
                          1911man
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 1575

                          In loading the 357 case the extra air inside, and low powder charge doesn’t effect the shot? So you can’t use gas check bullets in sass? So what is the difference in shooting light loads and heavier bullets? Just preference?
                          Last edited by 1911man; 12-04-2018, 10:06 PM. Reason: Info

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                          • #14
                            Jwalt
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2017
                            • 551

                            It's perfectly safe to fire .38 special in a .357 revolver, the only thing that might need to be said is "clean your damn gun".

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                            • #15
                              TrailerparkTrash
                              Veteran Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 4249

                              Originally posted by bobbybutler.rb
                              I hope your not firing 38 specials in a 357 magnum!. Because of the shorter case you can get lead spalling from a miniscule change in alignment, can cause catastrophic failure and danger of exploding your chamber.

                              Sent from my SM-T837V using Tapatalk
                              ^^^ FUD
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