Visiting From Arizona with handguns; what can I have?

[AZrael]

My girlfriend lives in California and I live in Arizona. As one might imagine, I find myself visiting California more and more.

1) I have checked and California does not offer a non-resident CCW; I cannot even apply for a CCW. They do not allow for open carry in incorporated areas and weapons in lock-boxes are not practical. In Arizona I don't even have to get a CCW to carry. What option do I have for protection in California? It seems to me that in the wake of the Hawaii gun case at least some of California law should not be enforceable; either ban concealed or open, but not both, right?

2) I see the penalty for carrying concealed is greatly reduced if a firearm is registered to you. Does California allow me to register my firearm to a foreign address?

3) May I visit with a handgun that is not on the safe handguns list?


Thank you in advance.

[heidad01]

Just in case and on a remote chance that you are real and not a shill for the next gun restriction proposal,

You can come to California and visit your girl friend all you want. Leave your guns in Arizona. No need to bring anything with you.

Why do you think you need a gun while visiting your friend in California?

[LD1061]

In OPs defense why do we in Cali carry in other States and acquire permits when available?

[AZrael]

Just in case and on a remote chance that you are real and not a shill for the next gun restriction proposal,

You can come to California and visit your girl friend all you want. Leave your guns in Arizona. No need to bring anything with you.

Why do you think you need a gun while visiting your friend in California?

I guess what they say about Californians is true??

If I should need a gun while in California, I can't really drive home and get it.

With all of the shootings you guys are having, I would like the ability to defend myself regardless of where I am. I am simply looking for legal ways in doing so.

[boopiejones]

Unfortunately i think the answer is that you can’t carry in CA. As far as what handguns you can bring with you (locked up, of course) it does not need to be on the roster. But I believe it has to be CA compliant as far as features are concerned - no threaded barrel, etc - but I could be wrong on that last point.

You can carry in your place of residence, which includes your hotel room and your girlfriends house. Once you leave the residence, I’d recommend not going places where you feel a gun maybe necessary - don’t hang out with stupid people in stupid places at stupid times doing stupid things. I realize that doesn’t help you in the “mass shooter attacks a restaurant” scenario, but it saves you from 99.9999% of shootings.

[DArBad]

OP, this is Commiefornia......leave your guns at home. " Legal " means here is wide open to interpretation esp. by the left leaning justice system.

Just sayin.

[P5Ret]

My girlfriend lives in California and I live in Arizona. As one might imagine, I find myself visiting California more and more.

1) I have checked and California does not offer a non-resident CCW; I cannot even apply for a CCW. They do not allow for open carry in incorporated areas and weapons in lock-boxes are not practical. In Arizona I don't even have to get a CCW to carry. What option do I have for protection in California? It seems to me that in the wake of the Hawaii gun case at least some of California law should not be enforceable; either ban concealed or open, but not both, right?

2) I see the penalty for carrying concealed is greatly reduced if a firearm is registered to you. Does California allow me to register my firearm to a foreign address?

3) May I visit with a handgun that is not on the safe handguns list?


Thank you in advance.

To answer your questions:
1) Both are not banned in Ca.

2) No, you must be a Ca resident to submit a Volreg, as it requires a Ca DL or ID number, along with an FSC.

3) Yes, the roster only effects what a dealer may transfer. You may not bring any magazine's that hold more than 10 rounds, or any handguns that are in Ca defined AW status, basically threaded barrel, mag well outside the grip.

[CessnaDriver]

1) I have checked and California does not offer a non-resident CCW; I cannot even apply for a CCW. They do not allow for open carry in incorporated areas and weapons in lock-boxes are not practical. In Arizona I don't even have to get a CCW to carry. What option do I have for protection in California? It seems to me that in the wake of the Hawaii gun case at least some of California law should not be enforceable; either ban concealed or open, but not both, right?

You can open carry on BLM land where shooting is allowed. That's it. Sorry.
You must have a CA CCW otherwise or of course be law enforcement.
And even they had to be disarmed inside a bar where alcohol is the primary product served.
And firearms must be in a California legal configuration, this more applies to rifles, but there is an injunction against our 10+ mag ban but better to
use only 10 round mags. And do NOT bring 10+ mags into CA anyways, importing illegal even if disassembled, same goes for rifles that do not follow CA "assault rifle" laws. Do not bring them into the state like that.
Handguns must be transported locked in a secure container unloaded.
You can put loaded mags in same container but I prefer not to do that.

I'm not sure on how much ammo you can bring. into the state legally. Usually it's some small amount for hunting I think. I would recommend do not bring any ammo at all and buy some once in California.

Options? You can carry pepper spray but not over a certain amount of ounces, I dont' recall what it is. A folder knife in pocket or open carry knife fixed blade but beware Los Angeles laws are more strict on open carry of a knife.Remember to call the knife a tool. Check local county and city laws as they could be more strict than state laws. Even folding knives should have a "Bias for closure". Knife laws are not bad but there are still some laws you need to check.
Stun guns are legal, and I believe you can get a taser as well, but I think it has to be registered to you or something, the "confetti" would have a serial number on it so they would know who fired the taser. I'm a little foggy on Tasers. Even those with
CCW will still carry many of these things, remember we want to avoid being forced to use a firearm, those tools can go a long ways
to achieve this.



2) I see the penalty for carrying concealed is greatly reduced if a firearm is registered to you. Does California allow me to register my firearm to a foreign address?

I don't know but don't risk it. Get busted breaking CA gun laws, may not play
well in your home state. Not worth it.
Do what others do here, you need to think of managing your risk. Be aware
of surroundings, don't go to areas prone to assault, and if you have
concern over some mass killer, don't go to "gun free" zones where masses congregate. Sorry. I wish the state was not like this but your talking about visiting one of the worst states for 2nd amendment rights. We are occupied territory and most of us are pilgrims in an unholy land.


3) May I visit with a handgun that is not on the safe handguns list?

I'm not aware of any law prohibiting this. I think that is fine.



Bottomline, If I were you, bring a pistol, 10 round mag or less, keep it locked in a secure container unloaded. No threaded barrels for handguns. Bring it in with you to private residences or hotel rooms for protection. Buy your ammo here. Many keep a firearm secured in their vehicle ot of sight but remember you are planning to go to a gun range if for some reason you consented to search and asked. Do NOT store it in the glovebox or center console. Get a quick open lockbox, whatever and cable it to the seat mounts or similar.
Choose one or more of the lesser but legal options for every day carry. Don't underestimate the power of some quality small flashlights. At night they will blind the hell out of someone very well, some have strobe too.



Anyone please correct me if I am wrong or squirrely on anything.

[Cokebottle]

My girlfriend lives in California and I live in Arizona. As one might imagine, I find myself visiting California more and more.

1) I have checked and California does not offer a non-resident CCW; I cannot even apply for a CCW. They do not allow for open carry in incorporated areas and weapons in lock-boxes are not practical. In Arizona I don't even have to get a CCW to carry. What option do I have for protection in California? It seems to me that in the wake of the Hawaii gun case at least some of California law should not be enforceable; either ban concealed or open, but not both, right?

2) I see the penalty for carrying concealed is greatly reduced if a firearm is registered to you. Does California allow me to register my firearm to a foreign address?

3) May I visit with a handgun that is not on the safe handguns list?

1 - The Hawaii case presently has no impact on CA. Concealed carry is not banned, and open carry is permitted under limited conditions.
If you do not have a California CCW, you may not carry concealed, whether loaded or unloaded, and you can not transport or carry loaded, even within a locked container. There are limited exceptions for loaded open carry in unincorporated county areas where shooting is not otherwise prohibited, or while engaged in hunting or fishing. Shooting is prohibited from or along any road, so you may not carry openly or concealed and loaded in your vehicle.

2 - No, a non-resident can not register a firearm in California.
Even if you were to do so, it only reduces the crime from a felony to a misdemeanor. The arresting officer will arrest and book under felony, and bail will be set at felony levels. It will then be up to the DA whether to charge as a felony or misdemeanor. You will need to pay an attorney, and you absolutely will spend time in jail and pay a large fine (California traffic tickets start at $500, so use that as your guide).
California prosecutors, judges, and juries are not gun-friendly.
If charged with a felony and convicted, you lose your 2A rights in all 50 states.
If you are within 1,000ft of a K-12 school, even a misdemeanor conviction carries a 10-year firearms prohibition.


3 - Yes. The only prohibition is that the handgun must not be considered an "assault weapon", which for traditional planform handguns like the Glock and 1911 means that it can't have a threaded barrel, and of course AR and AK pistols are a problem because the magazine attaches outside of the pistol grip.
Revolvers are unrestricted, with the exceptions of the Taurus Judge and S&W Governor. California considers them to be Short Barreled Shotguns.

http://www.calguns.net/caawid/hgflowchart.pdf

[AZrael]

Thank you all, this is exactly what I was wanting.

[Cokebottle]

You must have a CA CCW otherwise or of course be law enforcement.
And even they had to be disarmed inside a bar where alcohol is the primary product served.

That is actually not state law, but it is a condition of most IAs and they will pull your permit.

Options? You can carry pepper spray but not over a certain amount of ounces, I dont' recall what it is.

2.5oz

A folder knife in pocket or open carry knife fixed blade but beware Los Angeles laws are more strict on open carry of a knife.Remember to call the knife a tool. Check local county and city laws as they could be more strict than state laws. Even folding knives should have a "Bias for closure". Knife laws are not bad but there are still some laws you need to check.

A fully concealed folder is generally going to be OK. Any fixed blade must be carried openly, such as in a sheath on a belt.
Cities that have restrictions generally set the limit at a 4" blade.

Stun guns are legal, and I believe you can get a taser as well, but I think it has to be registered to you or something, the "confetti" would have a serial number on it so they would know who fired the taser.

They are registered through the manufacturer after purchase.
You buy the taser, but then have to activate it after purchase.

[B.J.F.]

1) I have checked and California does not offer a non-resident CCW; I cannot even apply for a CCW. They do not allow for open carry in incorporated areas and weapons in lock-boxes are not practical. In Arizona I don't even have to get a CCW to carry. What option do I have for protection in California? It seems to me that in the wake of the Hawaii gun case at least some of California law should not be enforceable; either ban concealed or open, but not both, right?

You can open carry on BLM land where shooting is allowed. That's it. Sorry.
You must have a CA CCW otherwise or of course be law enforcement.
And even they had to be disarmed inside a bar where alcohol is the primary product served.
And firearms must be in a California legal configuration, this more applies to rifles, but there is an injunction against our 10+ mag ban but better to
use only 10 round mags. And do NOT bring 10+ mags into CA anyways, importing illegal even if disassembled, same goes for rifles that do not follow CA "assault rifle" laws. Do not bring them into the state like that.
Handguns must be transported locked in a secure container unloaded.
You can put loaded mags in same container but I prefer not to do that.

I'm not sure on how much ammo you can bring. into the state legally. Usually it's some small amount for hunting I think. I would recommend do not bring any ammo at all and buy some once in California.

Options? You can carry pepper spray but not over a certain amount of ounces, I dont' recall what it is. A folder knife in pocket or open carry knife fixed blade but beware Los Angeles laws are more strict on open carry of a knife.Remember to call the knife a tool. Check local county and city laws as they could be more strict than state laws. Even folding knives should have a "Bias for closure". Knife laws are not bad but there are still some laws you need to check.
Stun guns are legal, and I believe you can get a taser as well, but I think it has to be registered to you or something, the "confetti" would have a serial number on it so they would know who fired the taser. I'm a little foggy on Tasers. Even those with
CCW will still carry many of these things, remember we want to avoid being forced to use a firearm, those tools can go a long ways
to achieve this.



2) I see the penalty for carrying concealed is greatly reduced if a firearm is registered to you. Does California allow me to register my firearm to a foreign address?

I don't know but don't risk it. Get busted breaking CA gun laws, may not play
well in your home state. Not worth it.
Do what others do here, you need to think of managing your risk. Be aware
of surroundings, don't go to areas prone to assault, and if you have
concern over some mass killer, don't go to "gun free" zones where masses congregate. Sorry. I wish the state was not like this but your talking about visiting one of the worst states for 2nd amendment rights. We are occupied territory and most of us are pilgrims in an unholy land.


3) May I visit with a handgun that is not on the safe handguns list?

I'm not aware of any law prohibiting this. I think that is fine.



Bottomline, If I were you, bring a pistol, 10 round mag or less, keep it locked in a secure container unloaded. No threaded barrels for handguns. Bring it in with you to private residences or hotel rooms for protection. Buy your ammo here. Many keep a firearm secured in their vehicle ot of sight but remember you are planning to go to a gun range if for some reason you consented to search and asked. Do NOT store it in the glovebox or center console. Get a quick open lockbox, whatever and cable it to the seat mounts or similar.
Choose one or more of the lesser but legal options for every day carry. Don't underestimate the power of some quality small flashlights. At night they will blind the hell out of someone very well, some have strobe too.



Anyone please correct me if I am wrong or squirrely on anything.

My dealer packet from Taser listed all the places and requirements for Taser ECD’s. I have not heard any changes or amendments to use & possession. You can open or conceal any Taser Brand ECD. There is not a LE series of Taser, only LE Green Cartridges which have longer probes and longer lead wires than black or yellow marked cartridges.

Pepper spray, most areas in CA 2.5oz no permit required for personal use.

Pepper Spray Los Angeles City Limits, 1.75oz or less, no permit required for personal use.

Stun guns, legal for carry, no permit required for personal use (Excluding San Bernardino City & Santa Barbara, Possession prohibited)

Taser ECD legal for carry, no permit required for personal use (Same prohibitions as Stun Guns in those cities)