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  • Woodworker2
    Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 429

    Anonymous surfing, Calgun and PayPal don't mix

    Hopefully no one else makes the mistake I did, have their PayPal account frozen and taint their reputation on Calguns.

    As many of us have experienced, various computer systems limit access to certain websites like Calguns.net. Depending on how well the filtering is done, it could be overcome by simply using a secured socket log-in of https://www.calguns.net. Defeating other systems requires a little more effort such as using anonymous hosts. But there is something to be watched out for.

    As I have come to find out, PayPal checks the IP address used to log-in and entering using an anonymous host sets off internal flags. A first I assumed that my account had been "limited" because of a purchase from another Calgun member (PayPal is anti-gun after all), but that was not the case at all.

    The next day, I received an email from PayPal stating that my account might have been compromised and that I needed to log-in to fix it. The funds in my account were frozen and sellers were sent an email advising not to ship anything (very embarrassing considering one was a first time purchase on Calguns). It is going to take a few days to clear up, but it leaves me wondering whether sending money orders might be a better method of making future purchases.
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  • #2
    Sig357
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 2092

    I have not had any problems using Paypal for firearm related items, as longs as the subject is discreet. Thanks for the warning.

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    • #3
      tlillard23
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2006
      • 1446

      whaaa? you have 41 on itrader. this must have happened a long time ago??

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      • #4
        fleegman
        Member
        • Mar 2008
        • 175

        PayPal checks the IP address used to log-in and entering using an anonymous host sets off internal flags.
        I'm not surprised PayPal froze you; using an anonymous IP system is a favorite tool of crooks. NOT saying you're a crook, just that you used one of their tools, kinda like walking around a residential neighborhood at night while carrying a pry bar; the cops will take note.
        BATF agent: "We're with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms."
        Arms dealer: "Let me guess... this isn't about the alcohol or tobacco."
        ~ Lord of War

        "One person can make a difference.... but sometimes they shouldn't".
        ~ Marge Simpson

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        • #5
          KAVEMAN762
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 565

          sorry Im computer illiterate. So you had calguns up on one window and paypal up on another window while surfing the net and it detected that or something?? Sorry I dont know jack squat about all this lingo, but Im curios to what exactly happened in layman terms. I use paypal but not for firearms stuff. And I surf calguns frequently.
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          • #6
            Sam
            Calguns Addict
            CGN Contributor
            • Jul 2008
            • 5205

            Originally posted by Woodworker2
            It is going to take a few days to clear up, but it leaves me wondering whether sending money orders might be a better method of making future purchases.
            I've sold and am in the process of selling a few items using the forums here and while I hate the percentage that paypal takes out I'm also not comfortable giving out a mailing address to people who would then know I own firearms. I guess I need to get a PO Box.

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            • #7
              djbooya
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2008
              • 816

              Originally posted by Sam
              I've sold and am in the process of selling a few items using the forums here and while I hate the percentage that paypal takes out I'm also not comfortable giving out a mailing address to people who would then know I own firearms. I guess I need to get a PO Box.
              What do you do when you buy stuff? I have a PO Box for just these sorts of scenarios..., but not even calguns stuff...anything off ebay, craigslist, etc.. I don't like to give out my home address at all.. it's also good for receiving everything signed and not having to have an adult around the house or worry about stuff getting swiped off the doorstep. Best $100 (or something, i pay annually) / yr I've spent.
              DJBooya
              "Try Not! Do or Do Not. There is no Try..."
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              • #8
                f00lish1
                Junior Member
                • Jul 2008
                • 66

                First of all, have you confirmed that this was an email from Paypal and not some phisher?

                I get these fake emails all the time from "paypal" saying I need to login, but when I check the links these emails want me to login on, they don't go to paypal.
                Lead, follow, or get out of the way.

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                • #9
                  MontClaire
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 4859

                  you used an anonymous IP? PayPal will cross check against that- you bet. Much of the fraud is done from overseas computers and paypal is trying to use everything they can to protect members. So yes they caught you. next time sign on without any anonymous surfing and you'll be fine.

                  being an anti-gun is a political choice of the woman -ceo who hopes to run for governor.

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                  • #10
                    CavTrooper
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 5944

                    Dont use paypal.

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                    • #11
                      acegunnr
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 2334

                      I had a "newbie" put gun related info which caused my paypal account to be suspended. He was not aware that paypal was anti-gun.

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                      • #12
                        Turbinator
                        Administrator
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 11933

                        To the OP - could you explain again in simpler terms, what happened?

                        Turby

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                        • #13
                          epic4444
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2008
                          • 879

                          i havent had a problem but i would perfer not to do paypal
                          Take it easy

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                          • #14
                            5thstreet@sbcglobal.net
                            Member
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 470

                            I HATE PAYPAL

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                            • #15
                              glock_this
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 8225

                              money orders? no thanks. PP makes life easy. yeah, it has issues.. what doesn't? but, if I cannot pay via PP when buying from someone, I just do not get involved. I do not have the time or effort to go get a money order or cashiers check and snail mail it and wait and blah blah blah.. those can also be faked anyway. when I want to buy, I want to buy now... PP rocks for that reason alone. and for the 500 that have issues, 500k have no problems.
                              10 +1 in the chamber

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