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  • I take shots
    Member
    • Feb 2017
    • 179

    Gun Control Argument Flowchart

    Has anyone ever seen, or made a flowchart like the ones we have for "Is your gun legal?" that breaks down gun control arguments, claims, and responses. Reading comments from online articles I see the exact same talking points over and over and the exact same responses over and over. I cringe every time I see someone make an easily countered argument or spouts off a false claim or misleading statistic.

    I think it would be useful and educational to take the very best pro and anti gun arguments and create a flowchart with the best responses from both sides. I would also include poor arguments and show how they could be countered on both sides. It could be a living document that was added to and changed over time as new information and better arguments were revealed.

    Each branch of the chart would either loop into another portion or stop when it reached a proven falsehood or unprovable assumption.

    I've considered doing something like this myself and just never gotten around to it. Maybe i will someday. I think it would help inform the debate on both sides.
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    Yodaman
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 2749

    That would be a mess of a document and there is not a page big enough for all the arguments that would be on there.


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    • #3
      ECG_88
      Senior Member
      • May 2012
      • 718

      I think Louder with Crowder has this. If you watch his gun control change my mind videos, at the end he pulls out a binder with all the arguments prepared ahead of time. The binder looks like it is 4 inches thick filled with sources and articles.
      Emotional appeal is a marketing tactic and not a foundation for effective argument.

      Nulla Fatere, Omnia Nega, Accusatorem Accusa

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      • #4
        sealocan
        Calguns Addict
        • Mar 2012
        • 9950

        How can we start to make all of mankind truly equal? >>>>>




        ^<<<<< See "Sam Colt".




        (Okay, I know that's not as complex or exactly what you wanted but I wanted to see if I could do the arrows on a simple flow chart. )

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        • #5
          200Apples
          -DVC- Mojave Lever Crew
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Dec 2011
          • 7217

          sealocan

          How can we start to make all of mankind truly equal? >>>>>


          ^<<<<< See "Sam Colt".


          (Okay, I know that's not as complex or exactly what you wanted but I wanted to see if I could do the arrows on a simple flow chart. )

          The problem with this vintage truism is that people today, or, the hoplophobes of today, do not understand it. They have not had to live during the absolutely savage times of 150+ years ago when the American frontier was expanding from east to west with all that that entailed.
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          • #6
            ECG_88
            Senior Member
            • May 2012
            • 718

            Originally posted by 200Apples
            The problem with this vintage truism is that people today, or, the hoplophobes of today, do not understand it. They have not had to live during the absolutely savage times of 150+ years ago when the American frontier was expanding from east to west with all that that entailed.
            Also most urban Californians feel generally pretty safe. If you live in a gated community and stay away from the ghetto, you might not feel the need for a gun.

            We all know this is a false sense of security as evil can strike anywhere at anytime. Like having a fire extinguisher doesn't mean I expect a fire, but its a good idea to have one nearby.
            Emotional appeal is a marketing tactic and not a foundation for effective argument.

            Nulla Fatere, Omnia Nega, Accusatorem Accusa

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            • #7
              meno377
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              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Jul 2013
              • 4911

              Originally posted by Fjold
              I've been married so long that I don't even look both ways when I cross the street.
              Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program.
              -Milton Friedman


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              • #8
                boopiejones
                Senior Member
                • May 2014
                • 2044

                my Benitez goes to 11

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                • #9
                  kmas
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2014
                  • 1315

                  A flow chart?
                  This horse has been beaten to death long ago.

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                  • #10
                    Jeepergeo
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 3506

                    Even a load of facts to the contrary will rarely change the mind of an anti 2A individual.

                    What has been shown to work is to get said individual out shooting.

                    We have shooting opportunities for the Scouts and let the parents shoot too. We've had timid parents that have never shot and say "No" to their kid shooting. We tell them they can come back at the end of the day when it is not crowded and give it a try. Most say no thanks. But you can't believe how many do come back later and want to shoot! And of those that shoot, I've never had one not enjoy the experience...some get downright giddy. IMHO, that converts folks.

                    The Bigger issues are non voting gun owners, gun owners that vote the Dem/Lib party line, and Union members that allow their Unions to support Dem/Lib anti 2A candidates and ballot measures. Folks in these groups are stealth anti 2A and are our real problem.
                    Benefactor Life Member, National Rifle Association
                    Life Member, California Rifle and Pistol Association

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                    • #11
                      Tango_Down
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2017
                      • 1175

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