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  • JoyfulJoker
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Sep 2018
    • 755

    Ammo Question

    I'm not sure how to search for the answer to this question. Please excuse me if this has been discussed before.

    The 4th rule of gun safety is to know your target, what's behind your target, in front of your target and to the left and right of your target.

    I walked my home and thought about an intruder or home invader ( which has happened in our city) and the consequences of shooting THROUGH them and through my stucco walls and into a neighbors home.

    Is their a type of ammo that is less powerful so that it would go through an opponent, but not into a neighbors home and cause them possible injury?
    I would like to be able to shoot at will without shooting into a neighbors home. Our homes are all stucco Mission Style Homes and about 8-10 feet apart. It may lodge into an exterior wall, but it may pass through a window.

    The day may never come, but if it does , it would be awful to hurt an innocent neighbor.

    Thanks.
  • #2
    Garv
    RSG Minion, Senior
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Apr 2014
    • 9024

    There has been some chat on this here.

    Did you have a specific caliber and gun in mind?

    With a shotgun for example, there is stopping power vs. penetration and a good amount of discussion on the right shot to use.
    Originally posted by Kestryll:
    It never fails to amuse me how people get outraged but fail to tell the whole story in their rants....

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    • #3
      Garv
      RSG Minion, Senior
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Apr 2014
      • 9024







      Congrats on the CZ, my wife keeps trying to steal my SP-01

      Above are a few on 9mm.

      The CGN Google search button in the upper right will provide several more. Use "9mm HD"

      One takeaway is to make sure that the ammo likes your gun.
      (Another excuse for an extra range trip.)

      Edit:

      Last edited by Garv; 10-19-2018, 8:52 PM.
      Originally posted by Kestryll:
      It never fails to amuse me how people get outraged but fail to tell the whole story in their rants....

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      • #4
        Trriemferent
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 1252

        If youre really worried about your neighbors, try frangible ammo

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        • #5
          LAKA90034
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Mar 2009
          • 1386

          Through a sheet of drywall (or two), through the backside of your exterior stucco wall, and through the adjacent stucco and no common walls?

          A handgun? If you’ve got a handgun that will do that, drop to a knee and use geometry to your advantage.
          "I prefer peace. But if trouble must come, let it come in my time, so that my children can live in peace."

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          • #6
            kcheung2
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 4387

            Shotgun
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            • #7
              plumbum
              Calguns Addict
              • May 2010
              • 5394

              If it really bothers you, check out the copper/polymer matrix loads:

              These are light and frangible enough to reduce over penetrating.
              Originally posted by ysr_racer
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              • #8
                JoyfulJoker
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                CGN Contributor
                • Sep 2018
                • 755

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                • #9
                  tanks
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2014
                  • 4038

                  Glaser Safety Slug
                  "... when a man has shot an elephant his life is full"- John Alfred Jordan
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                  • #10
                    200Apples
                    -DVC- Mojave Lever Crew
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 7217

                    The 4th rule of gun safety is to know your target, what's behind your target, in front of your target and to the left and right of your target.


                    The 4th Rule is "Be sure of your target", but we get your point, and the spirit in which you are posting.





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                    2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not prepared to destroy
                    3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target
                    4. Be sure of your target (and what is behind it)
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                    • #11
                      colossians323
                      Crusader for the truth!
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 21637

                      Originally posted by JoyfulJoker
                      I'm not sure how to search for the answer to this question. Please excuse me if this has been discussed before.

                      The 4th rule of gun safety is to know your target, what's behind your target, in front of your target and to the left and right of your target.

                      I walked my home and thought about an intruder or home invader ( which has happened in our city) and the consequences of shooting THROUGH them and through my stucco walls and into a neighbors home.

                      Is their a type of ammo that is less powerful so that it would go through an opponent, but not into a neighbors home and cause them possible injury?
                      I would like to be able to shoot at will without shooting into a neighbors home. Our homes are all stucco Mission Style Homes and about 8-10 feet apart. It may lodge into an exterior wall, but it may pass through a window.

                      The day may never come, but if it does , it would be awful to hurt an innocent neighbor.

                      Thanks.
                      hollow points?
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                      • #12
                        71MUSTY
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Mar 2014
                        • 7029

                        Originally posted by colossians323
                        hollow points?
                        Yep, most defense loads are designed to expand and expend all their force in the target and not exit to prevent just the type of collateral damage you are worried about.
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                        • #13
                          tanks
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2014
                          • 4038

                          Originally posted by 71MUSTY
                          Yep, most defense loads are designed to expand and expend all their force in the target and not exit to prevent just the type of collateral damage you are worried about.
                          Not every round might hit the target though.
                          "... when a man has shot an elephant his life is full"- John Alfred Jordan
                          "A set of ivory tusks speaks of a life well lived." - Unknown

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                          • #14
                            0ddl0t
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2018
                            • 60

                            Lightweight, high speed bullets like the 65-95 grain 9mm loads. Or a 5.7... They'll still penetrate sheetrock & stucco, but they will lose velocity so fast that they won't be much of a danger on the other side.

                            FN5.7 vs the Harrell meat target: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kh_WxeOAcxo

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