Fightlight products

[jordansmith116]

Does anyone know if the Fightlite SCR Pistol Lower with Bolt Carrier is available for purchase through an FFL in California? I have heard the SCR Rifle is.

[mshill]

I just looked this up. I want one so bad. It makes no sense but it would be so cool.

To bad it probably runs a foul of CA AW laws.

[Quiet]

Does anyone know if the Fightlite SCR Pistol Lower with Bolt Carrier is available for purchase through an FFL in California?

Nope.

It's not listed on the Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale.
So, it can not be legally transferred as a "handgun", unless an exemption is utilized.

If an exemption it utilized, it still needs to be built to comply with CA unsafe handgun laws and CA assault weapons laws.
Which means, it needs to be made into a dimensionally compliant bolt-action single shot pistol or a dimensionally compliant break-open single shot pistol.

With no exemption, it can still be legally transerred as a "long gun, rifle, receiver".
Which means, it can only be used to make a "long gun" and if it is used to make a "handgun", then resulting firearm will legally be considered a SBR [PC 17170(c)].

[walmart_ar15]

[Quiet]

If one were to mate it with a 7.5” standard ar upper without gas block and gas tube and use a standard BCG. It becomes a dimensionally complying break top single shot pistol.

Unfortunately no FFL in CA would transfer it ☹️

It would be a manually operated repeating pistol, due to it not having a fixed 0 round magazine/sled.

In order to be considered a break-open single-shot pistol, in addition to what you described, a 0 round magazine/sled needs to be contained in the firearm in such a manner that it can not be removed without dissassembling the firearm's action or it needs to be permanently attached in the firearm's magazine well.

[walmart_ar15]

It would be a manually operated repeating pistol, due to it not having a fixed 0 round magazine/sled.

In order to be considered a break-open single-shot pistol, in addition to what you described, a 0 round magazine/sled needs to be contained in the firearm in such a manner that it can not be removed without dissassembling the firearm's action or it needs to be permanently attached in the firearm's magazine well.

Hum, would it still be considered a repeating pistol if loading and unloading a cartridge will require to break open the action? With a normal BCG in it, the BCG cannot be cycled while the action is closed. There is no buffer tube for it to slide into.

[Bullets&Whitewalls]

Hum, would it still be considered a repeating pistol if loading and unloading a cartridge will require to break open the action? With a normal BCG in it, the BCG cannot be cycled while the action is closed. There is no buffer tube for it to slide into.

It would seem to me it could be dangerous to chamber a round that way. I could be wrong though. I have a manual pull rifle and I use the the buffer system still to chamber because it needs a pretty fair amount of power to get it chambered and the lugs locked in good. I would be worried about an out of battery fire without that stuff.

Sorry I know that’s not the answer to your question. Just mentioning it in case someone considered trying it.

[walmart_ar15]

Would imagine chambering not to be a problem as you can push the BCG to lock up as the upper tilted forward, either with the forward assist or just push the back of the BCG as it hangs outside the upper. For out of battery ignition, something would need to hit the primer. Unless someone uses a hammer to hit the BCG at the back causing the firing pin the fly forward, there is not other potential issue just pushing the BCG forward. If the cartridge won't lock up with just thumb pressure, there is something else wrong.

Unchambered a fired case maybe some work. I have one of those "bolt" action ARs. Those fired cases can be stubborn, and the charging handle does not provide that much leverage be worst if tilted forward.

[PogoJack]

The SCR can be purchased as a lower receiver with multicaliber markings.

Does it run afoul of the roster and/or CAAW laws if that was built into a pistol?

I no longer live in CA but I am curious to know the state of things regarding this.

[Bullets&Whitewalls]

Would imagine chambering not to be a problem as you can push the BCG to lock up as the upper tilted forward, either with the forward assist or just push the back of the BCG as it hangs outside the upper. For out of battery ignition, something would need to hit the primer. Unless someone uses a hammer to hit the BCG at the back causing the firing pin the fly forward, there is not other potential issue just pushing the BCG forward. If the cartridge won't lock up with just thumb pressure, there is something else wrong.

Unchambered a fired case maybe some work. I have one of those "bolt" action ARs. Those fired cases can be stubborn, and the charging handle does not provide that much leverage be worst if tilted forward.

[walmart_ar15]

The SCR can be purchased as a lower receiver with multicaliber markings.

Does it run afoul of the roster and/or CAAW laws if that was built into a pistol?

I no longer live in CA but I am curious to know the state of things regarding this.

U would get the SCR Raider receiver only, which is already a pistol.

Then it needs to be assembled into roster exempt dimensionally compliant single shot pistol which can then be legally transferred in CA. Since it is NOT a center fired semi auto, it does not fall under CAAW laws.

The trick is in the assembly, it cannot be converted from a previously semi pistol. It has to start as a virgin pistol receiver that never fired as a semi. Hence, u would buy the Raider as receiver only. It needs to be a single shot break top or bolt action. So u would fit an AR pistol upper with a standard BCG without the gas tube and block.

Unfortunately no CA FFL would touch this right now like other AR pistols.