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  • sfvshooter
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2016
    • 1199

    Experience with a seller, should I rate or let it go?

    So I tried to purchase an off-roster pistol at Turner's in Signal Hill last Thursday. The manager/person who checked the pistol, due to his incompetence, refused to process the PPT.

    I felt partially responsible since I suggested the location so I told the seller I'd drive down to OC (1.5-2 hrs each way) so we could complete the transfer. Unfortunately, this is a particularly busy time for me (12-16 hr days) so the earliest I could make it was 9/29 or 9 days after our initial effort at Turner's. His exact response was "I can do that."

    Today, he texts me that he sold the pistol. I replied that I'm not sure why he did that when we agreed to a date to meet. He said he didn't want to drive to Signal Hill in the first place and I expected him to wait 2 weeks. My final response was if he didn't want to wait 2 weeks (even though it was really 9 days), he should've said something instead of agreeing to it then selling it to someone else.

    At the very least, he could've let me know he was going to sell it and gave me an opportunity to match it. I could've offered him extra to honor our original date, compensate him to drive up to Turner's again so we could transact sooner, or a dozen other ways to make it work.

    I'm going to chalk it up to inexperience (he has 0 itrader feedback) and let it go, but I think it's poor form to agree to do something then not honor it. I know it's common practice on CG, but come on...keep your word.


    Too many rifles, not enough time...
  • #2
    Wordupmybrotha
    From anotha motha
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2013
    • 6965

    First, it's NOT a common practice on Calguns. It's not fair to impugn all of Calguns based on your limited knowledge/experience.

    I'd say a neutral rating if you want to pursue it.

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    • #3
      OCEquestrian
      Calguns Addict
      • Jun 2017
      • 6894

      It was tacky for the seller, having said he would wait, to sell the pistol out from under you without calling you first to see if you could do it sooner. That said, he is looking to sell his gun and turn it into cash, not do what amounts to doing favors for a stranger.

      You screwed up on the initial deal by choosing a place that wouldn't process the PPT. The seller did his thing to show up on time, with the gun in condition as represented and at agreed on price. You wasted the sellers time (which = money) and gas. Chalk it up to experience and move on with no rating since there was no transaction.
      Last edited by OCEquestrian; 09-25-2018, 10:53 AM.
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      • #4
        Blade Gunner
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 4422

        Let it slide. He didn’t jerk you around, Turners jerked both of you around.
        If you find yourself in a fair fight, you're doing it all wrong.

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        • #5
          NIB
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 549

          Forget it and move on. I would not leave any feedback. You tried once and it was a no-go. Time is money and if he found a better sell that was more convenient than let it be.

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          • #6
            lazyworm
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2006
            • 1639

            <calguns mob> OUT THE GUY! </calguns mob>

            seriously, have some integrity, people. A person's word is suppose to mean something.

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            • #7
              OCEquestrian
              Calguns Addict
              • Jun 2017
              • 6894

              Originally posted by lazyworm
              <calguns mob> OUT THE GUY! </calguns mob>

              seriously, have some integrity, people. A person's word is suppose to mean something.
              Yeah but most people dont have that level of integrity. That what makes the rest of us so... "special"
              "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ----Sen. Barry Goldwater

              Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ----Benjamin Franklin

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              • #8
                sfvshooter
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2016
                • 1199

                Originally posted by Wordupmybrotha
                First, it's NOT a common practice on Calguns. It's not fair to impugn all of Calguns based on your limited knowledge/experience.

                I'd say a neutral rating if you want to pursue it.
                Actually, in my limited experience, I've had more than a few people who have been hot and heavy telling me how badly they want to buy whatever I'm selling, only to disappear when it came time to actually transacting.

                So yes, my experience is limited, but some of these people had 3 digit trader feedback ratings so they should know better.
                Too many rifles, not enough time...

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                • #9
                  003
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 3436

                  Interesting cross section of opinions and experiences. If it were me, I would let it go and move on. While I admittedly have limited experience selling, I have never had a bad experience with another Calgunner either selling or buying.
                  Perhaps, because I made sure both parties fully understood all transaction details and nothing left to chance.

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                  • #10
                    HighWildFree
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 2103

                    It's such a pain the butt to sell on online forums, it is common to sell to the first person with cash in hand to avoid the drama. As mentioned, some people are "all in" then fade away quickly. Not the best policy, but nothing to warrant neg feedback.
                    "Bangarang Peter!"

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                    • #11
                      Dvrjon
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 11333

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                      • #12
                        PatC415
                        • Nov 2014
                        • 979

                        So, there was NO deal made.

                        How can you possibly "rate" the seller if he didn't sell you anything?
                        It's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the bottom.

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                        • #13
                          Skip_Dog
                          Veteran Member
                          • Apr 2017
                          • 2656

                          The seller met you at Turners for the first meet. I would say he tried and Turners misinformation screwed this sale. He should have called you and told you he found another buyer. You never know he could have been busy and it slipped his mind. I vote for let it go.

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                          • #14
                            SkyHawk
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 23510

                            You picked Turners, probably the last place I would *ever* pick for a PPT, and I mean it would have to be the very last FFL on the planet. I would never put myself or a seller/buyer through that experience and that is even going in assuming the transfer would have been handled.

                            Then, you had a scheduling issue that would put the sale out a week and a half... at least. In his mind he's wondering what other scheduling conflict or snafu you'd have had during that time that put it out even farther.

                            He initially said 'yes' but maybe had second thoughts, maybe that was just his people-pleaser nature.

                            Anyhow, this thing went off the rails at your direction. The guy *did* show up to PPT at the FFL of your choosing. I don't think any neg or neutral feedback is warranted. If anything you owe him a beer. Out of curiosity, how long were you and he waiting around at Turners before you were told it couldn't be transferred?
                            Last edited by SkyHawk; 09-25-2018, 7:59 PM.
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                            • #15
                              Pofoo
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 1680

                              In hind sight, since you were at Signal Hill, you should have went to Ammo bros in Cerritos (7-8 mi), or Rifle Gear (15/18) miles in Orange County, where he apparently is from.
                              But, really no ones fault, except Turdners. I don't think he was necessarily wrong if you look at it from his point of view (you didn't give him a deposit?). Even though you're disapointed, I wouldn't leave any feed back at all

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