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  • coltn46920
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 592

    First ppt correct procedure

    Ammo requires background checks at a ffl correct?

    Do I need the original paperwork of the rifle for proof it’s mine?
    The buyer needs two forms of ID? Does the seller as well?

    Anything else I might be missing?
    Originally posted by deadcoyote
    I will sit by the freshwater creek that runs through my yard and laugh, wait for the bay area folks to start trickling north, then sell off my cheapie C&R collection at inflated prices. "You like my sporterized M44 mosin eh? I'll take your middle daughter and all your jewlery".
    you just gotta know how to work these situations.
    Originally posted by Mitch
    "Ruger semi-auto pistols are well made, but they are ugly.Life is too short to collect ugly guns"
    Originally posted by flyingcaveman
    Butt-stroking is for wooden rifles
  • #2
    Garv
    RSG Minion, Senior
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Apr 2014
    • 9013

    Buyer needs two forms of ID plus the FSC.
    Seller needs a drivers license.

    You do not need to show proof of ownership of the rifle.

    Make sure the buyer has a case for the rifle unless you are giving him one.
    Sometimes the FFLs do not store the guns completely protected.
    Last edited by Garv; 09-24-2018, 10:48 PM.
    Originally posted by Kestryll:
    It never fails to amuse me how people get outraged but fail to tell the whole story in their rants....

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    • #3
      G-forceJunkie
      Calguns Addict
      • Jul 2010
      • 6292

      Seller just need a drivers licence or CA id card. Buyer needs (from the DOJ):

      1) Proof of ID and age

      Clear evidence of identity and age is defined as a valid California driver license or a valid California identification card issued by the Department of Motor Vehicles. Military identification is also acceptable if accompanied by permanent duty station orders indicating a posting in California, but the dealer must retain copies of both documents.

      Temporary driver licenses and temporary identification cards are not accepted forms of proof of identity and age.

      2) Proof or residency:

      Utility bill from within the past three months that bears on its face the individual's name and either of the following:
      The individual's current residential address as declared on the DROS form; or
      The individual's residential address as it appears on his or her California Driver License or California Identification Card, or change of address attachment thereto.

      "Utility bill" means a statement of charges for providing service to the individual's residence by either a physical connection (i.e., hard wired Internet, telephone connection or cable connection, or a water or gas pipeline connection) or a telemetric connection (i.e., satellite television or radio broadcast service) to a non-mobile, fixed antenna reception device.
      Residential lease that bears the individual's name and either of the following:
      The individual's current residential address as declared on the DROS form; or
      The individual's address as it appears on his or her California Driver License or California Identification Card, or change of address attachment thereto.
      "Residential lease" means either of the following:
      A signed and dated contract by which the individual (tenant) agrees to pay a specified monetary sum or provide other consideration for the right to occupy an abode for a specified period of time; or
      A signed and dated rental agreement by which the individual (tenant) agrees to pay a specified monetary sum or provide other consideration at fixed intervals for the right to occupy an abode.
      Property deed that bears the individual's name and either of the following:
      The individual's current residential address as declared on the DROS form; or
      The individual's address as it appears on his or her California Driver License or California Identification Card, or change of address attachment thereto.
      "Property deed" means either or the following:
      A valid deed of trust for the individual's property of current residence that identifies the individual as a grantee of the trust; or
      A valid Certificate of Title issued by a licensed title insurance company that identifies the individual as a title holder to his or her property of current residence.
      Current, government-issued license, permit, or registration, other than a California Driver License or California Identification Card, that has a specified expiration date or period of validity. The license, permit, or registration must bear the individual's name and either of the following:
      The individual's current residential address as declared on the DROS form; or
      The individual's address as it appears on his or her California Driver License, California Identification Card, or change of address attachment thereto.

      Examples of acceptable proof of residency:
      Current DMV registrations.
      Electricity, gas, cable bill with purchaser's name on it from within the last 3 months.
      Signed, dated and notarized rental agreement/contract.

      Examples of documents that are NOT acceptable proof of residency:
      Hunting or fishing license (these documents are not issued by the government).
      Cellular phone bill.

      3) Firearm Safety Certificate (FSC)

      4) $35 dollars

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      • #4
        ar15barrels
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 57075

        Originally posted by coltn46920
        Ammo requires background checks at a ffl correct?
        False.

        AMMO PPT's only require a licensed ammo seller to check the ID of the ammo recipient at this time.
        Since the general public are usually NOT licensed ammo sellers, they take the ammo TO a licensed ammo seller who then checks the ID of the person who wants to buy the ammo.
        Last edited by ar15barrels; 09-24-2018, 11:34 PM.
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