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  • #16
    Dirk Tungsten
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 2046

    Originally posted by REH
    More than a dozen investigators from FBI executed a search warrant on Gordon's property on Tamalpais Road early Thursday morning.
    How many of the dozen do you think were overweight?

    (probably all of them, or at least the ones not on steroids)

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    • #17
      Califpatriot
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2016
      • 2438

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      U.S. District Court
      California Northern District (San Francisco)
      CRIMINAL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 3:18-cr-00399-CRB-1

      Case title: USA v. Gordon
      Date Filed: 08/28/2018
      Assigned to: Judge Charles R. Breyer

      Defendant (1)
      Michael Christian Gordon represented by Steve Gary Kalar
      Federal Public Defender's Office
      450 Golden Gate Avenue
      19th floor
      San Francisco, CA 94102
      (415) 436-7711
      Fax: 415-436-7706
      Email: Steven_Kalar@fd.org
      LEAD ATTORNEY
      ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED
      Designation: Public Defender or Community Defender Appointment

      Pending Counts
      Disposition
      26:5861(c) Possession of Prohibited Firearm
      (1)
      26:5861(d) Possession of Prohibited Firearm
      (2)
      26:5861(i) Possession of Prohibited Firearm
      (3)
      26:5872 Making a Prohibited Firearm
      (4)

      Highest Offense Level (Opening)
      Felony

      Terminated Counts
      Disposition
      None

      Highest Offense Level (Terminated)
      None

      Complaints
      Disposition
      None

      Plaintiff
      USA represented by Ross E Weingarten
      U.S. Attorney's Office for the Northern District of Cal
      450 Golden Gate Ave, 11th floor
      San Francisco, CA 94102-3495
      415-437-6747
      Email: Ross.Weingarten@usdoj.gov
      LEAD ATTORNEY
      ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED
      Designation: Assistant US Attorney

      Date Filed # Docket Text
      08/28/2018 1 INDICTMENT as to Michael Christian Gordon (1) count(s) 1, 2, 3, 4. (ddkS, COURT STAFF) (Filed on 8/28/2018) (Additional attachment(s) added on 9/7/2018: # 1 Criminal Cover Sheet) (mjj2S, COURT STAFF). (Entered: 08/28/2018)
      08/28/2018 2 Order to Seal Case as to Michael Christian Gordon. Signed by Magistrate Judge Jacqueline Scott Corley on 8/28/18. (ddkS, COURT STAFF) (Filed on 8/28/2018) (mjj2S, COURT STAFF). (Entered: 08/28/2018)
      09/06/2018 Set/Reset Hearing as to Defendant Michael Christian Gordon Initial Appearance set for 9/6/2018 09:30 AM in San Francisco, Courtroom E, 15th Floor before Magistrate Judge Elizabeth D. Laporte. (shyS, COURT STAFF) (Filed on 9/6/2018) (Entered: 09/06/2018)
      09/06/2018 3 Minute Entry for proceedings held before Magistrate Judge Elizabeth D. Laporte: Initial Appearance, and Arraignment as to Michael Christian Gordon (1) Count 1,2,3,4 held on 9/6/2018; ID of Counsel Hearing as to Michael Christian Gordon held on 9/6/2018, Added attorney Steve Gary Kalar for Michael Christian Gordon. Plea entered by Michael Christian Gordon (1): Not Guilty on counts 1,2,3,4. AUSA orally moves to unseal the entire case - Granted. The potential for contribution toward Defendant's legal defense shall be assessed at the end of the case, or sooner if there is good cause. Status Conference set for 10/3/2018 01:30 PM in San Francisco, Courtroom 06, 17th Floor before Judge Charles R. Breyer. FTR Time 10:04-10:13. Plaintiff Attorney: Ross Weingarten. Defendant Attorney: Steve Kalar. Pretrial Officer: Katrina Chu. Defendant Present: Yes. Defendant in Custody: Yes. (mjj2S, COURT STAFF) (Filed on 9/6/2018) (Entered: 09/07/2018)
      09/06/2018 4 CJA 23 Financial Affidavit by Michael Christian Gordon (mjj2S, COURT STAFF) (Filed on 9/6/2018) (Entered: 09/07/2018)
      09/06/2018 5 ORDER Setting Conditions of Release and Appearance: Unsecured Bond Entered as to Michael Christian Gordon in amount of $ 50,000. Signed by Magistrate Judge Elizabeth D. Laporte on 9/6/2018. (mjj2S, COURT STAFF) (Filed on 9/6/2018) (Entered: 09/07/2018)
      In case it wasn't obvious, nothing I write here should be interpreted as legal advice.

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      • #18
        Califpatriot
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2016
        • 2438

        See attached.

        This is a straightforward unlicensed, unserialized SBR case. Nothing to see here.
        Attached Files
        In case it wasn't obvious, nothing I write here should be interpreted as legal advice.

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        • #19
          M1NM
          Calguns Addict
          • Oct 2011
          • 7966

          Originally posted by shootsocal_dave
          haha what is the obsession with SBRs!? Would probably have been legal if it had a 16" barrel!
          Or no butt stock

          Originally posted by REH
          More than a dozen investigators from FBI executed a search warrant on Gordon's property on Tamalpais Road early Thursday morning.


          One dozen? Bet they were all dressed up in BDU’s, camel backs, min 6 extra 30 round mags and Kevlar.
          They always go in numbers divisable by 12. It's easier to bring the donuts that way.
          Last edited by M1NM; 09-07-2018, 8:44 PM.

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          • #20
            caliguy93
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2016
            • 1512

            We still have no evidence it was an SBR.. could easily be a brace.

            Looking at the indictment he had 10 round hex mags.. find it oddly
            Curious that he has an sbr but only 10 round mags. It’s like paying the parking meter before robbing a bank.

            I’m which case only the serialization issue which isn’t an issue as he has until 2019 to complete the DOJ provided serial number process

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            • #21
              Califpatriot
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2016
              • 2438

              The only charges mentioned are federal ones. Federal government doesn't charge for state crimes. Having an unserialized firearm is generally legal under federal law--although having an unserialized SBR is an exception to that general rule.
              In case it wasn't obvious, nothing I write here should be interpreted as legal advice.

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              • #22
                Califpatriot
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2016
                • 2438

                Originally posted by caliguy93
                We still have no evidence it was an SBR.. could easily be a brace.
                Theoretically possible, but extremely unlikely given the ATF interpretation. Federal prosecutors aren't idiot, third-tier law school district attorneys. They are very smart and they don't bring charges that won't stick.
                In case it wasn't obvious, nothing I write here should be interpreted as legal advice.

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                • #23
                  GW
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • May 2004
                  • 16078

                  Originally posted by OlderThanDirt
                  So, what member is missing from Calguns:

                  Man Arrested For Manufacturing Illegal Weapon At Home
                  What a dumb ***.
                  sigpicNRA Benefactor Member

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                  • #24
                    hermosabeach
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 19594

                    Why does it take that much salary.

                    More than a dozen investigators from FBI executed a search warrant on Gordon's property on Tamalpais Road early Thursday morning.
                    Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                    Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                    Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                    Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                    (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                    • #25
                      UberPatriot
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 2069

                      I live in Fairfax but I don't know the guy by name. What a dummy though.
                      Last edited by UberPatriot; 09-08-2018, 12:22 PM.
                      Location: Olympic Peninsula Washington

                      NRA Member

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                      • #26
                        sigstroker
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 19734

                        Originally posted by Califpatriot
                        Theoretically possible, but extremely unlikely given the ATF interpretation. Federal prosecutors aren't idiot, third-tier law school district attorneys. They are very smart and they don't bring charges that won't stick.
                        Sure they do. That's one of their tactics, to overwhelm and scare defense attorneys. They cook up every charge they can think of. Plus, if it goes to trial, and the guy in convicted of one charge and not guilty on three, when it comes to sentencing, the guidelines allow for the not-guilty counts to be used against him.

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                        • #27
                          bohoki
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 20825

                          so do federal charges have to be made first then state ? or are they just going to leave this one to the feds (for sbr tax evasion) and let the press releases imply its california gun laws working?

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                          • #28
                            Califpatriot
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 2438

                            Originally posted by sigstroker
                            Sure they do. That's one of their tactics, to overwhelm and scare defense attorneys. They cook up every charge they can think of. Plus, if it goes to trial, and the guy in convicted of one charge and not guilty on three, when it comes to sentencing, the guidelines allow for the not-guilty counts to be used against him.
                            Sure--except if it's a brace, none of the charges stick. Each charge relies on the firearm being a rifle, which it is not according to the federal government if it has a brace (and was never previously a rifle). So your point is inapposite here.

                            Anyway, betting is a tax on BS: I'll bet you fifty bucks to the 2A organization of the winner's choice that this firearm did not have a brace on it.
                            In case it wasn't obvious, nothing I write here should be interpreted as legal advice.

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                            • #29
                              kmas
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2014
                              • 1315

                              Another dumb one bites the dust ...

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                              • #30
                                Jimi Jah
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Jan 2014
                                • 18971

                                Who's the lawyer? I need to know so I can avoid him. Who let's a client admit he has manufactured an illegal @ssalt weapon?

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