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  • Starslinger
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2016
    • 1486

    Why are there no guns with electronic button triggers?

    I was just watching a couple of videos featuring some of the intricate inner workings of a handgun trigger. I thought that the video was interesting and I was impressed at the engineering behind it. Still, it made me wonder why guns still use mechanical triggers and linkages. Wouldn't it be simpler if the shooter pressed a button (even a trigger-shaped "button") which sent a signal through an internal wire to activate an electric firing-pin mechanism? I would think that an electronic trigger might be easily customizable for pull weight or reset, and there wouldn't be so many little internal parts to clean if you were disassembling the gun for a complete cleaning. Surely engineers can create rugged, reliable electronics for this purpose by now? What are the reasons that I don't see any guns with electronic triggers?
  • #2
    Lonestargrizzly not a Cabinetguy
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2015
    • 6504

    Cuz of emp attacks.

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    • #3
      Cokebottle
      Señor Member
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2009
      • 32373

      A mechanical connection is still needed.
      Electronics can and do fail... generally at the worst possible time.
      Batteries run down.
      Piezoelectric mechanisms fail (ever have a hard time lighting your BBQ?).
      The mechanical trigger has always been and always will be the simplest, most reliable way to actuate a firing pin.
      - Rich

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      A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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      • #4
        TimRB
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2009
        • 920

        Too many things to go wrong, including a battery, versus a simple mechanism that has worked well for hundreds of years.

        Tim

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        • #5
          Cokebottle
          Señor Member
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2009
          • 32373

          Originally posted by TimRB
          Too many things to go wrong, including a battery, versus a simple mechanism that has worked well for hundreds of years.
          Yup.
          Building a better mousetrap does not mean making it more complex and adding electronics.
          - Rich

          Originally posted by dantodd
          A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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          • #6
            Lonestargrizzly not a Cabinetguy
            Calguns Addict
            • Dec 2015
            • 6504

            Originally posted by Cokebottle
            Yup.
            Building a better mousetrap does not mean making it more complex and adding electronics.
            Also emp attacks

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            • #7
              sigstroker
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2009
              • 19655

              Mostly because of rules. There have been electronic triggers for decades on Olympic type pistols, but they are banned in many competitions.

              A button still has a "pull weight". If you do a touch screen it would be uncontrollable.

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              • #8
                meno377
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                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Jul 2013
                • 4911

                Originally posted by Fjold
                I've been married so long that I don't even look both ways when I cross the street.
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                -Milton Friedman


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                • #9
                  ef9boy88
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2016
                  • 645

                  They have them in paintball guns. Batteries die or go bad, servos wear out and electronics fail.

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                  • #10
                    Catch
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 1327

                    Miniguns use some electronics. https://www.acme-worldwide.com/produ...m-134-minigun/

                    But have you ever seen the matrix 3? (Emp attacks).

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                    • #11
                      Starslinger
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2016
                      • 1486

                      Hmm...with ruggedized mini red dots sights and tactical lights becoming more popular I thought that perhaps it was time for electronic triggers and firing mechanisms. The Military Arms Channel has a video on a the new Atrax rifle, and the video states that the next future version of the Atrax is expected to have a battery pack in the grip compartment and a powered rail along the top for mounting red dot sights and such.

                      But I guess people aren't quite ready to rely on such electronics for their own firearms, or just don't see the need. I get it. Thanks for the responses, folks.

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                      • #12
                        sbo80
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 2265

                        electronics also can fail in the opposite direction, sending a signal when they aren't supposed to. Bomb release mechanisms on aircraft use an electric signal in a push button. But there are dual-pathway redundancy stuff, plus software supporting it, to prevent an inadvertent release. Imagine sliding into your car and the static charge built up between your corduroy pants and the seat, causes your pistol to fire

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                        • #13
                          tawadc95
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2017
                          • 565

                          Russia could hack your trigger if it wasn't mechanical.

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                          • #14
                            Simi762
                            Member
                            • May 2013
                            • 368

                            What a lazy aaaaaa ssss

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                            • #15
                              71MUSTY
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Mar 2014
                              • 7029

                              Originally posted by sbo80
                              electronics also can fail in the opposite direction, sending a signal when they aren't supposed to. Bomb release mechanisms on aircraft use an electric signal in a push button. But there are dual-pathway redundancy stuff, plus software supporting it, to prevent an inadvertent release. Imagine sliding into your car and the static charge built up between your corduroy pants and the seat, causes your pistol to fire
                              Imagine the static electricity from the carpet triggering your firearm.

                              Not good.
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