Home Defense Gun Modifications

[mansysinatra]

I'd never modify the internals of a carry gun. However, I'd like to try a shorter travel/pretravel/trigger pull length on my bedside gun (pistol).

If it's possible, I want to only reduce the pull length, not pull weight. I'd like to maintain at least 5.5lb. I have around 2,500 rounds through it and dry fire, so it's broken in.

The gun is a Springfield XD 9 (5" barrel).

Edit: the primary reason is reach/trigger finger placement due to hand dimensions.

[damon1272]

Check out Powder River. They may get you where you want to be but I think the trigger is lighter too.
Part of the safety feature of a striker fired gun is the long trigger pull.

[kenl]

You might want to consider powder river's trigger kit. https://shop.powderriverprecision.ne...&categoryId=30

Takes some fitting, and a little pricey, but nice results imho. You can use your stock springs if you want to keep close to stock trigger weight.

My xd has the kit. Pm me if you are in the Sacramento area and want to check it out be for buying.

[westcoaster]

I think you can just change out the sear and the little bat looking plate next to the sear to get the shorter pull. I have the whole kit installed but if you watch the powder river video you'll see those parts are what shorten the pre-travel. Dont know if the different springs are needed for that sear housing but I seriously doubt it.

[mansysinatra]

Thanks for the replies. Does anyone have evidence for why such a modification would not be advisable for defense use?

[SonofWWIIDI]

Just a suggestion, if you haven't already done so, you might want to check with your IA about mods. They may (or may not) have a policy for/against.

As for the trigger, I also suggest you check out the powder river kit. It changes the length of pull significantly.

[kmas]

Caution, Mansy

If you ever do shoot someone with it, any mods you make to the original CA Legal Gun will be used against you in court.

[9mmContagion]

If you ever do shoot someone with it, any mods you make to the original CA Legal Gun will be used against you in court.

[mansysinatra]

If you ever do shoot someone with it, any mods you make to the original CA Legal Gun will be used against you in court.

Please cite your evidence. I specified it's not a carry gun.

Trigger weight at 5.5lb or more (ideally no weight reduction) but an easier too reach trigger, doesn't seem like a "smoking gun" for guilt.

Additionally, the pistol is for getting to the shotgun. I'm not clearing rooms. I'm calling 911, securing the bedroom, and watching the cameras if someone becomes a threat.

[-hanko]

If you ever do shoot someone with it, any mods you make to the original CA Legal Gun will be used against you in court.

Moving FUD with a shovel, are we?

[Citadelgrad87]

If you ever do shoot someone with it, any mods you make to the original CA Legal Gun will be used against you in court.

As an attorney, I throw the bs flag.

[ZombieLivesMatter]

If you ever do shoot someone with it, any mods you make to the original CA Legal Gun will be used against you in court.

What the?....... I hope some new person doesn't read it and take it seriously and then start spreading it around.

[meno377]

If you ever do shoot someone with it, any mods you make to the original CA Legal Gun will be used against you in court.

If I install a Lone Wolf barrel in my Glock 17 will that be used against me in court? Any trigger polish? An extended magazine release? Grip tape? Can you cite a case that supports your statement?

[L84CABO]

If you ever do shoot someone with it, any mods you make to the original CA Legal Gun will be used against you in court.

Maybe. And it's a very big maybe, leaning heavily toward, "probably not."

How many cases can you find where a modification has sent an otherwise innocent person to jail? That the modification itself was the sole reason they went to jail?

I'm sorry but if this were true we'd be hearing and seeing the actual cases left and right. And we simply don't. It's VERY unlikely that a good shoot becomes a bad shoot because you, say, lightened your trigger to 4.5 lbs.

Now if you ND into somebody and you've lightened your trigger, yea, that's probably not going to go well for you. But shoot an armed bad guy in your house with a 4.5 lb trigger? Go to jail for that? Sorry, but that's really unlikely. Whether you had a 4.5 lb trigger or a 7 lb trigger, that guy was going to get shot either way. And in that regard you were either justified or not.

Alternatively, let's see all the cases where this has happened. There should be plenty of them if it's such a concern. And I'm talking about REASONABLE modifications here. Obviously I don't mean running a 2 lb trigger on a carry gun.

[fiddletown]

....I'm sorry but if this were true we'd be hearing and seeing the actual cases left and right....

Actually you wouldn't. Theses posts by others on Pistol Forum explain why:

• (Caselaw; the state spinning a narrative):
  

  https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?27448-Punisher-Skull-on-a-Self-Defense-Firearm&p=643762&viewfull=1#post643762

  
  
  
• (More on why asking for caselaw is useless. )
  

  https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?27448-Punisher-Skull-on-a-Self-Defense-Firearm&p=644154&viewfull=1#post644154

  
  
  
• ( Caselaw, again.)
  https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....l=1#post644594

I'm posting the links because the posts are comments from other lawyers who explain, perhaps better than I have in the past, why we don't find cases.