Buyer protection in PPT

[NorCalBusa]

I follow that a seller presents ID to the FFL in this process, but how does the buyer (who is forking over perhaps a thousand dollars or more cash) protect themselves the gun is owned by the seller, isn't stolen or something else that kinks the deal?

As I understand it- the cash goes to the seller day one and buyer returns 14 days later to pick up the gun. The cash is long gone, the FFL isn't going to hand over a stolen gun (nor does the buyer want one)- not seeing any recourse for the buyer.

Seems the buyer should get the serial number before meeting, but I don't think one can simply run that number online and learn anything... Am I seeing this wrong?

[AreWeFree]

Then don't do it guy, your FUD doesn't hold up.

The FFL runs the seller's identification, often with a thumbprint. How many stolen guns have gone through an FFL, 0.000001%?

[bug_eyedmonster]

The solution to you dilemma would be to buy whatever gun you want new from a local gun store instead of buying used.

Jerry

[ARDude]

Buyer returns in 10 days, not 14.

[NorCalBusa]

Then don't do it guy, your FUD doesn't hold up.

The FFL runs the seller's identification, often with a thumbprint. How many stolen guns have gone through an FFL, 0.000001%?

Don't know what you mean by FUD. Good point on the fingerprint of the seller- thanks.

[NorCalBusa]

The solution to you dilemma would be to buy whatever gun you want new from a local gun store instead of buying used. Jerry

Doesn't sound like a solution at all. Avoidance, it is...

[NorCalBusa]

Buyer returns in 10 days, not 14.

Thanks for the correction.

[Kwikvette]

Same goes for buying firearm related accessories/parts where paypal won't protect the buyer (or sends funds FF).

There's always a risk; usually after a phone call you can weed people out.

[Barang]

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Seems the buyer should get the serial number before meeting, but I don't think one can simply run that number online and learn anything... Am I seeing this wrong?

even if you could, they will not trust you with their serial number. I definitely would not.

You take your chances when doing PPT so feedback is a good guidance. 100% of my transaction with Calgunners (with Positive feedbacks) were smooth, pleasant, and friendly.

[-hanko]

even if you could, they will not trust you with their serial number. I definitely would not.

You take your chances when doing PPT so feedback is a good guidance. 100% of my transaction with Calgunners (with Positive feedbacks) were smooth, pleasant, and friendly.

If I cannot read the sn on pics of the weapon for sale, I pm or email the seller and ask for it. For the guns I usually purchase, that's to verify if they are C&R or need to go through my local ffl if the weapon is not in Idaho. No issue if the seller leaves the last digit or 2 as "X", but stonewalling the sn would cause me to avoid the seller and find another gun.

[CSACANNONEER]

What happens when you buy a car from someone and it's stolen?

Buyer returns in 10 days, not 14.

Many times I don't return for +20 days. 14 days isn't wrong. The OP didn't say that one could not return to pick it up before his 14 day mark, did he?

[NorCalBusa]

even if you could, they will not trust you with their serial number. I definitely would not.

You take your chances when doing PPT so feedback is a good guidance. 100% of my transaction with Calgunners (with Positive feedbacks) were smooth, pleasant, and friendly.

Good advice- thanks.

[NorCalBusa]

If I cannot read the sn on pics of the weapon for sale, I pm or email the seller and ask for it. For the guns I usually purchase, that's to verify if they are C&R or need to go through my local ffl if the weapon is not in Idaho. No issue if the seller leaves the last digit or 2 as "X", but stonewalling the sn would cause me to avoid the seller and find another gun.

Thanks.

Methinks I want the entire number and I'd verify it one day 1 before the deal is complete. After all, I'm the one doing all the driving. Twice (so it looks on most posts). I'm not seeing risk as a seller to posting a serial number- a nefarious use is no more than one simply making it up.

I think both sides want the same things- confidence, security- for as little hassle as is reasonable.

[Trriemferent]

OP, even if you do get the SN, how do you plan to verify if its stolen?

I agree that doing a PPT (as a buyer) for the first time can be worrisome but if you buy from someone with lots of positive feedback, ask lots of questions and maybe speaking to them via a phone conversation can alleviate some of your worries.

[xxINKxx]

This is when Profiling people is ok ha. Do they seem sketchy?

If they sold you a stolen gun, the FFL has all their info, thumb print. Would be easy to track down and either sue, call cops, or vigilante street justice