Holosights

[cocorador]

I need someone to shed a little light on the subject. I have heard of co-witness and have seen most of the ar type rifles on web sites having a front sight with some sort of holosight. I would have to say that is co-witness. JUst a guess. Does one have to have a front sight on the rifle to use a holo type sight or can it be used as a stand alone sight similar to a rifle scope with zero magnification? I have an IPSC type pistol with a C-More and that is it's only sight. Does it work on that same principal? Thanks

[ligamentum flavum]

"holosights" can be use alone, without any front or rear iron sights.

[James R.]

No need for a front sight, but lots of folks co-witness or have BUIS. On my rifle I have BUIS, an ARMS 40L on the back and a Samson in the front. Here's what the EOTech looks like thru the glass...no front or rear sight needed.



It's much more crisp in real life, I hand held this picture.

Regards,

James R.

[NeoWeird]

Hey James is that the real recticle in your picture? I ask because I just got my EOTech from Brownells and the recticle is a LOT fuzzier than then ones that I have used on fellow board member's guns. I tried the adjustment, but it didn't really help that much. I'll try to post a picture so you can see, but maybe I am just not adjusting it right.

[Mud]

Hey James is that the real recticle in your picture? I ask because I just got my EOTech from Brownells and the recticle is a LOT fuzzier than then ones that I have used on fellow board member's guns. I tried the adjustment, but it didn't really help that much. I'll try to post a picture so you can see, but maybe I am just not adjusting it right.

NeoWeird,

Did you Clean your Shooting Glasses before shooting???

My Holosight is pretty Sharp also, the dot in the center is nice and round. Can't speak for the EOtech as I don't own one.

[markymark]

I still don't understand how the Eotech works... I guess I haven't used mine enough yet.

On one of my builds, I have the fixed front sight with Eotech and BUIS. I noticed that if I tilt my head (even just a little), the reticle does not reflect where the iron sights are lined up. Do I need to keep my cheekweld and sight picture consistent to make the shots go where I want them to? What is all their talk about holograms about in regards to this? (http://www.eotech-inc.com/lawe_features.php)

[m1371]

I still don't understand how the Eotech works... I guess I haven't used mine enough yet.

On one of my builds, I have the fixed front sight with Eotech and BUIS. I noticed that if I tilt my head (even just a little), the reticle does not reflect where the iron sights are lined up. Do I need to keep my cheekweld and sight picture consistent to make the shots go where I want them to? What is all their talk about holograms about in regards to this? (http://www.eotech-inc.com/lawe_features.php)

The EOTech is designed to be used with both eyes open, focusing on the target. Using that method there is quite a bit of leeway allowed for poor cheekweld. As long as you're focusing on the target and not the recticle, anywhere you "see" the recticle on the target is going to hit.

You can also use the EOTech like a conventional optic, focusing with one eye on the recticle instead of the target. I've found this isn't nearly as fast as using both eyes open though. You'll need to be consistent with your cheekweld if you're doing this.

[markymark]

The EOTech is designed to be used with both eyes open, focusing on the target. Using that method there is quite a bit of leeway allowed for poor cheekweld. As long as you're focusing on the target and not the recticle, anywhere you "see" the recticle on the target is going to hit.

You can also use the EOTech like a conventional optic, focusing with one eye on the recticle instead of the target. I've found this isn't nearly as fast as using both eyes open though. You'll need to be consistent with your cheekweld if you're doing this.

Thanks, that might be the problem. I was sighting in the rifle and I was using only one eye. I find it difficult to keep both eyes open when shooting because I think my left eye is dominant (I'm right handed).

[bonjing]

Hey James is that the real recticle in your picture? I ask because I just got my EOTech from Brownells and the recticle is a LOT fuzzier than then ones that I have used on fellow board member's guns. I tried the adjustment, but it didn't really help that much. I'll try to post a picture so you can see, but maybe I am just not adjusting it right.

+1 alot of the Eotech's that I have seen are very fuzzy

[NeoWeird]

Here are some quick pictures I snapped. At first I thought maybe there was a width adjustment but there isn't as far as I can tell. This sight is NEW from Brownells and I've only had it for about 3 days and it has not been mounted once. It is using the batteries it came with which are Energizer Industrial grade batteries. I am wondering if I need to send it somewhere for repair.

ETA: The top picture is at its brightest setting. The bottom picture is 5 settings below that, which is 15 of 20. If I got to ten it is hardly visible, and anything below 10 and it would wash out in any sort of real light.

[m1371]

Thanks, that might be the problem. I was sighting in the rifle and I was using only one eye. I find it difficult to keep both eyes open when shooting because I think my left eye is dominant (I'm right handed).

You should still be good to go if you're only using one eye. Just remember that when you're doing that, it performs more like a conventional optic. You'll need to maintain a consistent cheekweld and continue to focus on the recticle. Don't try to force the recticle into alignment with the iron sights, as it operates independently of them.

+1 alot of the Eotech's that I have seen are very fuzzy

Most of the time the recticle isn't going to be as sharply defined as scope crosshairs usually are. I think most people are under the impression that the EOTech recticle should look the same. If you're using it properly, with both eyes open and focusing on the target instead of the recticle, the recticle is not going to be 100% clean and crisp in your vision.

[paradox]

Thanks, that might be the problem. I was sighting in the rifle and I was using only one eye. I find it difficult to keep both eyes open when shooting because I think my left eye is dominant (I'm right handed).

To find out what eye is dominant, hold your index finger vertical with your arm extended. With both eyes open, line up your index finger with something in the background (tree, light pole, etc). Without moving your finger or head, close one eye then open it and close the other. One of your eyes will keep your finger on your landmark, the other eye will have your finger seemingly jump several inches laterally. The eye that keeps your finger on target is your dominant eye.

With shooting, it is better to let eye dominance determine what hand you shoot with rather than hand dominance. For instance, I am left handed, but right eye dominant, so I shoot right handed. All the two-eyes-open techniques (red dot, scout scope, pistol shooting) will fail if you are shooting from your non eye-dominant side.

[JamesY]

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ETA: The top picture is at its brightest setting. The bottom picture is 5 settings below that, which is 15 of 20. If I got to ten it is hardly visible, and anything below 10 and it would wash out in any sort of real light...

That looks very fuzzy. It might be the picture or the brightness/lighting, but it shouldn't be that fuzzy. Mine is just a bit fuzzy, even at bright settings.

I'd give Eotech an email and see what they think.

[Dont Tread on Me]

That looks very fuzzy. It might be the picture or the brightness/lighting, but it shouldn't be that fuzzy. Mine is just a bit fuzzy, even at bright settings.

I'd give Eotech an email and see what they think.

I second that. Mine is a little fuzzy but not that fuzzy. Unless it is some weird effect with you camera I'd contact Eotech.

[JamesY]

Check out this thread. They have a bunch of pics of their Eotech reticles (especially on page 2).