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  • TechD
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2018
    • 27

    Temporarily storing a gun in another state while on a road trip?

    OK, this is going to sound silly, but here goes.

    Is there a safe, legal and more importantly, practical / realistic way to temporarily store a gun in a state that borders another state that bans gun ownership or transport, so you can visit for a little while on your way across the country?
    (let's assume you don't have any friends in the area)

    I've been wanting to do a road-trip from California to Maine for a few years now, and until recently, I figured it would be easy, even if I decided to bring a small .22 target pistol along for the ride.

    Then about a week ago, I found out about the ridiculous and draconian gun laws in places like New York, New Jersey and Maryland, that would make my trip a lot more difficult than I'd hoped.

    I thought about a locker at the bus station, but when I checked the Greyhound website, it stated that the lockers were only good for 24 hours..... and I'm not entirely sure if you don't have to be a ticket holder to use them.
    You'd also have to luck out and find a station in the area you were in, or reasonably close to it.

    A bank safety deposit box is out. You pay for those by the year, not the month, and the bank likely has a rule against storing guns in them (if they find out).

    Public Storage? Not likely, unless you planned to stay in NY for a month and PS had a tiny storage container you could rent at a reasonable price.

    Of course this idea wouldn't be practical on a road trip unless NY, NJ or MD was your final destination. Having to drive back and fort to drop off and pick up your gun before continuing on in your original direction, would add way too many miles to your trip.

    Forgive me if this sounds like an idiotic question. Sometimes I get the urge to torture myself by overthinking something 'till my head hurts. Hey look, it's working!
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    L84CABO
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2009
    • 8657

    It's not an idiotic question. Because while your rights aren't supposed to stop at the state border, the reality is that we really don't have a Second Amendment. We have 50 variations of the Second Amendment. And lord knows trying to piece together all the rules and laws of each state on a cross country trip like this, is no small feat.

    I do not know of any specific gun storage service. However I would think your best bet might be to call various gun stores and ranges near the border of a particularly offensive state and see if any of them would be willing to temporarily store a weapon for you. Who knows, maybe gun stores near places like New Jersey and New York do actually offer this type of service. If not, it seems to me like it would be a quick and easy way for them to make a few bucks if they have some spare room in one of their shops safes. And the fact that they are an FFL (assuming they are) would likely handle any of the legal issues.

    If there was an issue of you not wanting to have to backtrack to pickup the weapon, one idea might be for the shop to hold the weapon for the appropriate length of time and then ship it back to your home for you.
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    • #3
      Ron-Solo
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      • Jan 2009
      • 8581

      In this case, the terms safe, legal, and practical don’t play well with others. If you have family, you could ship it to yourself at their address. Can be quite costly and you always run the risk of it being lost or stolen. Also, in my opinion, a .22 is a poor choice for self defense. Rimfire just isn’t reliable enough.

      Research the states you plan on traveling through, and avoid states like NY, NJ, and others of a like anti gun mindset.
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      • #4
        PyroFox79
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 2603

        Last edited by PyroFox79; 05-07-2018, 11:33 PM.
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        • #5
          colt11
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 697

          Try leaving your pistol at a gun shop for cleaning just before you enter New Year.

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          • #6
            colt11
            Senior Member
            • May 2012
            • 697

            ...... Try leaving your pistol at a gun shop for cleaning just before you enter New York.

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            • #7
              Quiet
              retired Goon
              • Mar 2007
              • 30241

              Originally posted by PyroFox79
              Wasnt there a court case about this? The result was basically you can drive through these states with your firearms with out issue. Personally I'd just drive through them. Dont speed or otherwise draw attention to yourself. Screw their laws.
              Would you rather be carried by 6 or judged by 12?
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              Federal Courts (Second & Third Circuit Court of Appeals) have clarified the matter in that the Federal "safe passage" laws is an affirmative defense to be used at trial; After a person is arrested, jailed, and property confiscated for violating the laws of the State the person is traveling through.

              It does not protect a person from being arrested/jailed and it does not grant/award any civil damages for the arrest/jailing/confiscation because that was all done under good faith of enforcing the State laws.

              In addition, the Federal "safe passage" laws only applies when the person is traveling directly through the State with no extended stops, stays, or side trips.
              Last edited by Quiet; 05-08-2018, 6:39 AM.
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              • #8
                xxINKxx
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 4289

                If it were me, I would lock it in a small pelican case, or wrap it up in my dirty undies buried in my clothing bag and don’t ask don’t tell, don’t do stupid crap that cops will need to search your stuff.
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                • #9
                  duckman1
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 3683

                  Me thinks you worry to much. Lock it in a case, lock the ammo in a case and hide them well in the trunk. Enjoy your trip and have a great time.

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                  • #10
                    TechD
                    Junior Member
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 27

                    Originally posted by colt11
                    ...... Try leaving your pistol at a gun shop for cleaning just before you enter New York.
                    That's brilliant! Terrific idea! I don't know why I didn't think of that.
                    Thanks for the idea.

                    Originally posted by duckman1
                    Me thinks you worry too much. Lock it in a case, lock the ammo in a case and hide them well in the trunk. Enjoy your trip and have a great time.
                    I don't have a trunk, I have a mini-van / camper with a 30 cal. ammo can affixed to the leg of the bed, that's bound to attract unwanted attention during a NY traffic stop (if they see it)... But you're absolutely right. I do worry too much. I need to work on that.

                    Originally posted by Ron-Solo
                    Research the states you plan on traveling through, and avoid states like NY, NJ, and others of a like anti gun mindset.
                    Could do, but I'd like to see New York. I hear it's really beautiful in spots. Lots to do and see.

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                    • #11
                      200Apples
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                      • Dec 2011
                      • 7217

                      PyroFox79
                      This may be the McClure-Volkmer Act.

                      Transport Through Jurisdictions with Restrictive Laws

                      You will now be able to transport legally owned and carried gun, in your automobile or other vehicle, through a jurisdiction* with a law that might otherwise prohibit you from doing so, as long as you would not be in violation of the laws of the place you are traveling TO





                      But! as Quiet just mentioned, you are still subject to the whims of The Enforcers Of Draconian Law in those particular states.

                      Don't stop (unless it's for fuel, even then, see if it's possible to cross that state with one tank and a strong bladder), don't speed, don't wreck, ensure all vehicle lights are working, both license plates installed, etc...
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                      • #12
                        sigstroker
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 19546

                        Firearm Owners Protection Act


                        Sure, Barney Fife can arrest you in violation of the Act, but he can arrest you for ugly shoes too.

                        BTW, I know of a public storage place that has gun storage lockers. Also a gun shop that would store your guns in their main vault room, but that place closed, and these places are nowhere near Maine. But if they exist here they might exist elsewhere.

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                        • #13
                          colt11
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 697

                          Paint some psychedelic rainbows on the ammo can!

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                          • #14
                            TechD
                            Junior Member
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 27

                            I don't know about NY, NJ or MD, but it looks like you can take a shotgun into Canada. You just have to declare it and fill out a mountain of forms.

                            The only uncertainty I'm finding is whether or not you can have it for protection from wild animals. One site says yes, but another says just for hunting and target competitions.

                            I might have forgotten to mention in my original post that I'd like to visit Canada and Newfoundland, too.

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                            • #15
                              Jimmy's
                              Veteran Member
                              • May 2016
                              • 2600

                              Or just leave your gun at home.

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