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  • #46
    BJames
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 548

    Originally posted by ojisan
    Any details on what happened?
    See above post. There are so many details in this post that you can't see the forest for the trees, or you can't see the trees for the forest. It's all so confusing!

    We know the following: There are drops of blood on the floor and someone may or may not have gotten a bloody nose!

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    • #47
      grim1U
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2007
      • 1363

      And now you have a "biohazard." Goodluck with the that. Remember correct ration of water to bleach, correct dispossal of cleaning items or proper disencting of them, etc, etc.

      Who wants to bet they used the mop and bucket to clean up this mess, the same one they use in bathrooms, etc. ��

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      • #48
        Yuki
        Member
        • Aug 2013
        • 374

        Originally posted by davek8s
        The guy was packing up and he dropped the hammer on his pistol before putting it in his range bag. Unfortunately there was a round in the chamber.

        He was ok and talking to people when the paramedics wheeled him out.


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        • #49
          omega
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2005
          • 3107

          I noticed lots of senior citizens are like that around firearms, when they get older sometimes they get confused easily or senile and make mistakes the same with driving

          I was on a fishing trip on a charter boat and a senior citizen kept saying thats my fish when I reeled my catch in still attached to my line, he got so confused in the excitement he didnt even know what was going on and accused me of taking his fish?

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          • #50
            rothbardian
            Junior Member
            • Nov 2013
            • 57


            You mean like we do when someone gets a cut at home? The horror!

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            • #51
              IVC
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jul 2010
              • 17629

              Originally posted by davek8s
              The guy was packing up and he dropped the hammer on his pistol before putting it in his range bag. Unfortunately there was a round in the chamber.
              This is where shooting action matches would really help - we have strict protocols that are easy to follow and they become a second nature. After shooting, ensure clear, point downrange and pull the trigger. If there is a round, there will be no injury.

              As a side note, I've had an ND of this kind at the local range. Towards the end of the training session, I pulled the mag out, cleared the gun, pulled the trigger and it went "bang." Of course, it was pointed in the safe direction and it didn't look like an ND, but *I* knew it was an ND so it was the end of my day that day.

              It was also a very important lesson for the "ensure clear" part - don't just glance. Perform an actual inspection, particularly of the chamber. It's too easy to get complacent and count on catching the ejected round in the air as a way to know the gun is clear. When you run dry, or mag remains in the gun, or extractor doesn't catch the round, all sorts of things happen if you rush through "clear, pull the trigger." I am still not sure which of the steps I performed incorrectly at the time, but I know two things: (1) whatever my standard process was, it didn't happen at the time, and (2) I did NOT visually confirm empty chamber, at least not correctly.

              Things happen. That's why we have multiple safety rules. Every time you do something stupid, it should be a lesson to change your habits and go back to basics.
              sigpicNRA Benefactor Member

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              • #52
                2Aon2wheels
                Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 486

                Originally posted by IVC
                This is where shooting action matches would really help - we have strict protocols that are easy to follow and they become a second nature. After shooting, ensure clear, point downrange and pull the trigger. If there is a round, there will be no injury.

                As a side note, I've had an ND of this kind at the local range. Towards the end of the training session, I pulled the mag out, cleared the gun, pulled the trigger and it went "bang." Of course, it was pointed in the safe direction and it didn't look like an ND, but *I* knew it was an ND so it was the end of my day that day.

                It was also a very important lesson for the "ensure clear" part - don't just glance. Perform an actual inspection, particularly of the chamber. It's too easy to get complacent and count on catching the ejected round in the air as a way to know the gun is clear. When you run dry, or mag remains in the gun, or extractor doesn't catch the round, all sorts of things happen if you rush through "clear, pull the trigger." I am still not sure which of the steps I performed incorrectly at the time, but I know two things: (1) whatever my standard process was, it didn't happen at the time, and (2) I did NOT visually confirm empty chamber, at least not correctly.

                Things happen. That's why we have multiple safety rules. Every time you do something stupid, it should be a lesson to change your habits and go back to basics.
                Thanks for posting.
                -2A2W

                NRA Life member - Benefactor | SAF Life member | CRPA Life member

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                • #53
                  davek8s
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 2014

                  Whoops, at the indoor range



                  It looked like they were using windex at first, then some realized they should wait for the police to investigate before cleaning up...


                  Originally posted by mrboma
                  Dave,



                  Stop going to Markley's on IDPA Sunday!

                  Glad no one was seriously hurt.

                  The stupid at Markley's can be strong at times.



                  Regards,

                  Mike
                  Last edited by davek8s; 04-30-2018, 12:37 PM.

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                  • #54
                    wild_weasel
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 1256

                    Incidents like these are exactly why I carry my IFAK (trauma kit) in my shooting bag. Several times at FT3 Tactical I've left due to people with absolutely no business being there and the RSO's being oblivious.

                    Cheers,
                    W-W
                    sigpic
                    Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering whale; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee.

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                    • #55
                      VictorFranko
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 13737

                      Indoor public ranges.......no thanks.

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                      • #56
                        madjack956
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 2617

                        Its not a good day for shooters when people start leaking at the range.
                        Paralyzed Veterans of America www.pva.org

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                        • #57
                          Blade Gunner
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 4422

                          Call Abby Sciuto
                          If you find yourself in a fair fight, you're doing it all wrong.

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                          • #58
                            colt11
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 697

                            45 minutes after opening, he wanted no time shooting himeself in the leg, hopefully it was just a 22 which probably gas a much smaller exit wound then a 9mm. That's a great shooting range! Hope this little incident doesn't scare you away from future range time.

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                            • #59
                              SmokieBear
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 548

                              Originally posted by wild_weasel
                              Incidents like these are exactly why I carry my IFAK (trauma kit) in my shooting bag. Several times at FT3 Tactical I've left due to people with absolutely no business being there and the RSO's being oblivious.

                              Cheers,
                              W-W
                              Same here. I go even further by telling anyone who goes with me to any shoots the time it takes to drive and location of any urgent care facility.

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                              • #60
                                Cokebottle
                                Seņor Member
                                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 32373

                                Originally posted by grim1U
                                Who wants to bet they used the mop and bucket to clean up this mess, the same one they use in bathrooms, etc. ��
                                There are worse things than a few blood spatters in most semi-public restrooms.
                                - Rich

                                Originally posted by dantodd
                                A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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