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  • Oldmandan
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 2721

    5 PPT per year rule

    First off, Im asking for a friend....

    Its my understanding that there is a “5 per” year rule for PPT sales

    He’s looking to move out of state right now, and has 8 pistols he wants to sell before he goes. He could really use the cash for moving expenses.

    He’s already done 2 ppt sale transactions this year

    So the question is... does the DOJ have a mechanism to prevent him from going over 5 transactions.
    "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them" - Richard Henry Lee

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    billped
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 2504

    There's no limit on the number of handguns one can buy or sell in a year.
    Bill

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    • #3
      690 Enduro R
      Member
      • Mar 2017
      • 209

      Five is the limit you can sell in one year .

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      • #4
        deephouse
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 3858

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        • #5
          deephouse
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 3858

          Originally posted by 690 Enduro R
          Five is the limit you can sell in one year .


          You can have 5 pistols on one DROS and it would count as 1 transaction.




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          • #6
            IWillTakeIt
            Junior Member
            • Jul 2017
            • 7

            Originally posted by Oldmandan
            First off, Im asking for a friend....

            So the question is... does the DOJ have a mechanism to prevent him from going over 5 transactions.
            ...

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            • #7
              code_blue
              Veteran Member
              • Sep 2012
              • 3452

              I have witnessed many people perform more than 5 pistol sale transactions per year by a private person. I have yet to witness enforcement of that law.

              It is up to your friend what he/she wishes to do.
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              Radian & Aero Pistol lowers, Folsom

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              • #8
                Barbarosa
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 2166

                As already stated, fewer than 6 transactions but multiple guns allowed per transaction. However, I know folks who routinely exceed the limit and have never had a problem - not that I recommend it.

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                • #9
                  Rambo, John J.
                  Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 256

                  Bundle some of the sales. Try to sell more than one firearm per transaction.

                  If he sells more than 5 transactions, Kali might want to keep him here and help him move but into the "Big House."

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                  • #10
                    Yodaman
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 2749

                    Originally posted by billped
                    There's no limit on the number of handguns one can buy or sell in a year.

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                    • #11
                      P5Ret
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 6374

                      Originally posted by billped
                      There's no limit on the number of handguns one can buy or sell in a year.
                      Try to buy 13 handguns out of dealer stock. Or more than 1 in 30 days in LA, I think the 1 in 30 rule is pretty good at setting a limit.

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                      • #12
                        Yodaman
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 2749

                        Originally posted by P5Ret
                        Try to buy 13 handguns out of dealer stock. Or more than 1 in 30 days in LA, I think the 1 in 30 rule is pretty good at setting a limit.


                        ☝️ good way of putting it


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                        • #13
                          Cokebottle
                          Seņor Member
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 32373

                          Originally posted by P5Ret
                          Try to buy 13 handguns out of dealer stock. Or more than 1 in 30 days in LA, I think the 1 in 30 rule is pretty good at setting a limit.
                          1 in 30 limits dealer stock, but (outside of LA) PPT are still unlimited even with dealer purchases interspersed, so you could still legally buy 365 (or more) handguns in one year... and ya, that might draw some attention, but in and of itself, it is not illegal.
                          - Rich

                          Originally posted by dantodd
                          A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                          • #14
                            Litespeeds
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jul 2015
                            • 3260

                            Your friend is moving out of CA so what does he have to worry about? Just sell everything as he can replace most of them when he moves to a free state.

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                            • #15
                              OlderThanDirt
                              FUBAR
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 5877

                              Well, friend, what do you have for sale?

                              All seriousness aside, the 5 per year rule is intended to prevent someone from making a living selling guns without an FFL. Estates are clearly exempt from this "rule", and liquidating a collection would be very similar. I know a few people that have sold off large collections either because they were just plain old, or were moving out of state. If this is a collection that has been held for a long time, there shouldn't be an issue. If it is eight of the same gun, well, the booty bandit may be waiting.
                              We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying. ~ Solzhenitsyn
                              Thermidorian Reaction . . Prepare for it.

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