Compliant or Register

[dwinters14]

Register, the state dictates how and where you can use your rifle, how to transport it, and basically bars you from selling or transferring it to anyone else in the state. You can not will the rifle to anyone. in other words you are transferring ownership to the state, but they will let you use it as long as you play by their rules. Worse, you need to pay them $ to take ownership of the rifle and you're stuck with that bullet button. Some say registering protect you from future restrictive laws. Time will tell, but do you really want to trust this government on that? Others say you can always make it featureless and deregister it later, but why go through the $ and hassle to do this, even if the state lets you.

Featureless rifles are ugly, but very usable. The conversion is easier to do than registration, and if done right costs about the same. A bonus it that the rifle is still yours, if bought after 2014 it is in the general dros database, not the evil/scary/confiscate-first database, and you can use a normal mag release, not that bb.

Btw, pre or post 2014, shouldn't matter when deciding if you want to register your rifle, they don't know how it's configured.

Then there is the lock-mag option. But as someone else said, there is a bunch of info on all of these options. I recommend doing some research.

Hope this helps

This. Right. Here.

No one seems to look at it like this, but this is exactly what it is. They're also incredibly invasive asking for tons of photos of the complete rifle as if anything other than the lower is actually considered the rifle. If the DOJ ever tried to confiscate anything they'd get a stripped lower and the middle finger.

[smoothy8500]

I did reg.. some back in early 89 .. Because i still wanted to be able to take them out ... And now, most of the time it becomes a hassle..... NEVER AGAIN

Yeah, I registered mine too. Featureless wasn't an option back then.

[big red]

I complied with the existing law every time i bought a weapon. If the state failed to track it by whatever means that is on them and not on me. featureless is not a legitimate issue now except for rifles that are purchased since that law passed. The state has created that this mess that is impossible not to violate but why should i and others have to pay out of our own pockets to clean it up? If you walked into a gun store and purchased the weapon then you complied with the law of the time on configuration and compliance otherwise the gun shop should not have sold it to you. You passed the background checks so you are good to go. if the state threw those records away then that is on them and not on you. You broke no laws and new laws do not apply. If it was legal to run red lights all of these years and now the state says it is against the law can they go back and fine you for every red light you ran prior to the new law? No difference here from what I see.

[onelonehorseman]

Expect . . . . that featureless - presently compliant non-AW rifles, will be the next target for yet another class of AW's in the near future (likely when our next progressive liberal and rabidly anti-gun Governor takes office).

While I agree that going featureless is very useful now, that situation could be short-lived.

The situation, and associated choices, will vary between individuals, so each must make the decision that best suits their own.

I believe those who are thinking ahead are hedging their bets now.

[boopiejones]

Regardless of when you purchased the rifle, i don’t see the point in registering. IMO there is zero upside to registering, but significant downside:

You can no longer pass them down to family members
You’re officially a registered assault weapon owner (which could be used against you in a domestic dispute, or for a multitude of other reasons)
Etc.

[ARDude]

I can understand some people don't like featureless items. But some of the fixed mag solutions are a lot better than the bullet button is.

[mshill]

You can no longer pass them down to family members

Only true if your family members live in CA.

As for being a registered AW owner... its just another list when you have handguns purchased since 1968, long guns purchased after 2014, and a CCW.

Just look at my CCW, I've got a friggin' "arsenal" listed on that alone.

[bohoki]

i figure i am already toast i have well over 10 registered handguns registered assault weapons a registered 50 bmg

[Dump1567]

Registered advantages:

1.Use mags that hold more than 10 rounds (if you have them)
2.Can go under 30" OAL (great if you want to un-pin folders or shorten bullpups) Still must be over 26" OAL.
3. May one day (through legal action) be able to remove BB and have standard mag release.
4. IMO, legitimizes your firearm (letter from DOJ showing registration). This is great for LEO contact (look, here's my registration). Also for use with Arm braces/Cheek rests if registered & approved that way. (again, look LEO, here's how the DOJ approved it).
5. Gun will have the original look (important if you're a collector).
6. Ability to un-register if you sell out of state or go featureless (this will allow someone to inherit them).

Disadvantages:

1.Transportation restrictions
2.DOJ knows you have it (confiscation one day?)
3.Others in household can't have access unless Joint registered

I registered all mine. The State knows I own guns already. I also regretted not registering a few in 2001. Won't make that mistake again.

Law Enforcement is grossly under-trained on the recognition of all things AW. A letter from the DOJ (your registration) and the original full length pic of what you uploaded to the DOJ, may help you avoid any legality issues during LEO contact.

[fresnohunter]

If you think CADOJ doesn't have specifics on a rifle you drosd before 2014 then think again.

[stevebla]

Pre 2014 data exists. I don't judge anyone on there decisions.

[Marauder2003]

FWIW, all my evil long guns are in NV.

[Sapperforward]

Registered advantages:

1.Use mags that hold more than 10 rounds (if you have them)
2.Can go under 30" OAL (great if you want to un-pin folders or shorten bullpups) Still must be over 26" OAL.
3. May one day (through legal action) be able to remove BB and have standard mag release.
4. IMO, legitimizes your firearm (letter from DOJ showing registration). This is great for LEO contact (look, here's my registration). Also for use with Arm braces/Cheek rests if registered & approved that way. (again, look LEO, here's how the DOJ approved it).
5. Gun will have the original look (important if you're a collector).
6. Ability to un-register if you sell out of state or go featureless (this will allow someone to inherit them).

Disadvantages:

1.Transportation restrictions
2.DOJ knows you have it (confiscation one day?)
3.Others in household can't have access unless Joint registered

I registered all mine. The State knows I own guns already. I also regretted not registering a few in 2001. Won't make that mistake again.

Law Enforcement is grossly under-trained on the recognition of all things AW. A letter from the DOJ (your registration) and the original full length pic of what you uploaded to the DOJ, may help you avoid any legality issues during LEO contact.

So does that mean you can't modify the registered assault weapon? Like change the upper, stock, hand guards? Changing barrel length or caliber? I'm just trying to clarify. I was planning on registering most of mine but want the ability to change them up a bit in the future.

[BigPun762]

So does that mean you can't modify the registered assault weapon? Like change the upper, stock, hand guards? Changing barrel length or caliber? I'm just trying to clarify. I was planning on registering most of mine but want the ability to change them up a bit in the future.

DOJ says the only thing you cannot do is change out the BB and have it less than 26" OAL. Aside from that, you can change uppers, sights, pistol grips, hand guards, stocks, etc.

I believe a LEO encounter will end as soon as you hand him/her the registration papers and that its being transported properly. I don't think they'll demand the photos that you originally submitted.

[Sapperforward]

DOJ says the only thing you cannot do is change out the BB and have it less than 26" OAL. Aside from that, you can change uppers, sights, pistol grips, hand guards, stocks, etc.

I believe a LEO encounter will end as soon as you hand him/her the registration papers and that its being transported properly. I don't think they'll demand the photos that you originally submitted.

Thanks. That clears it up for me.

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