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  • ZombieLivesMatter
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2016
    • 2533

    Gun stores that don't know laws

    I called Gun Effects in City of Industry and asked if I can PPT a AR pistol lower and the guy on phone said yeah. Met with the buyer and they tell us they can't just do the lower it's against the law because it's a assault weapon, I tell them about the penal code that says separate upper and lower is not a assault weapon, it's clear but they say no, they would need the complete AR pistol ...... umm okay I step outside with the buyer and we decide to DROS it complete with a fixed mag, we go back in and then they change their mind and said they aren't allowed to do AR pistol at all lower or fixed mag. I showed them my paperwork of a Daniel Defense MK18 AR pistol I did just last year at their store and the pistol we're DROSing today was a factory pistol bought from Turner's, and the employee just repeated they don't do it, ok no arguing here their store their rules.

    I should be upset at California for all these ridiculous laws, but shouldn't the gun stores know the laws since they're in the business of it? In the past four years I bought G34, G19, and G17 from Gun Effects, all were good experiences, but this experience left a sour taste, will probably take my business elsewhere not that it matters to them.
    Last edited by ZombieLivesMatter; 04-03-2018, 8:05 PM.
    Originally posted by gwgn02
    G-shock, a good way to tell the time, and better way to tell the female variety you are unworthy mating material.
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    CALI-gula
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2006
    • 7046

    Fully fixed-mag (not bullet button)... and they should have done it.

    Dumb.

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      ZombieLivesMatter
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2016
      • 2533

      My friend did a AR pistol lower a few weeks ago at Guns Direct in Burbank no problem, I called and asked if they can do a pistol lower and they said no problem and scheduled a appointment for us tomorrow. Guns Direct has always been knowledgeable, but I thought Gun Effects was as well.

      Thumbs up to Guns Direct in Burbank.
      Originally posted by gwgn02
      G-shock, a good way to tell the time, and better way to tell the female variety you are unworthy mating material.

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      • #4
        ZombieLivesMatter
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2016
        • 2533

        Aces in West Covina gave me a call and said they confirmed with their owner and FFL holder that a separated AR pistol is good to go, thought I'd share for anyone searching the topic.
        Originally posted by gwgn02
        G-shock, a good way to tell the time, and better way to tell the female variety you are unworthy mating material.

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        • #5
          The Shootist
          Senior Member
          • May 2010
          • 1796

          Originally posted by ZombieLivesMatter
          Aces in West Covina gave me a call and said they confirmed with their owner and FFL holder that a separated AR pistol is good to go, thought I'd share for anyone searching the topic.
          Aces is a great place! Talk to Jason they know their laws to the T.....they are my go to place and their fees are the best in the business.
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            I Swan
            Calguns Addict
            • Sep 2010
            • 8770

            I'd expect that from Turner's but not Gun Effects but in a way you really can't blame them.

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            • #7
              ZombieLivesMatter
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2016
              • 2533

              Originally posted by I Swan
              I'd expect that from Turner's but not Gun Effects but in a way you really can't blame them.
              My sentiments exactly, expect it from Turner's but Gun Effects I assumed was knowledgeable and up-to-date, I understand this is their business and lively hood thus why I just left without arguing after trying to show them the PC about separate upper and lower not being assault weapon and they didn't wasn't to listen.

              Originally posted by The Shootist
              Aces is a great place! Talk to Jason they know their laws to the T.....they are my go to place and their fees are the best in the business.

              I agree, Aces is always on point, done many PPT with them, I wish they were a gun store they would do great.. The guy on the phone was like don't even worrying about explaining the separate upper and lower they know the laws and I'm good to go with them.
              Originally posted by gwgn02
              G-shock, a good way to tell the time, and better way to tell the female variety you are unworthy mating material.

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              • #8
                vg247
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2004
                • 1071

                Gun Effects has always been good to go. Must be more than it seems on their side of the counter, perhaps the person(s) working the counter was not in the know and the bosses more knowledgeable staff weren’t around?

                I have met a tool’ or two working behind the counter there and did not deal with them and went to the source

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                  ZombieLivesMatter
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2016
                  • 2533

                  Originally posted by vg247
                  I have met a tool’ or two working behind the counter there and did not deal with them and went to the source
                  Yeah the Asian owner wasn't there, I've interacted with him and he has always been good. Today was a white guy with a tight shirt.
                  Originally posted by gwgn02
                  G-shock, a good way to tell the time, and better way to tell the female variety you are unworthy mating material.

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                  • #10
                    vg247
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 1071

                    Originally posted by ZombieLivesMatter
                    Yeah the Asian owner wasn't there, I've interacted with him and he has always been good. Today was a white guy with a tight shirt.

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                    • #11
                      ZombieLivesMatter
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2016
                      • 2533

                      Originally posted by vg247
                      Nothing personal against him but if it’s the younger guy mid twenties guy who carries the P226 and stands by it raving about Sig 226’s, that’s one of the tools...
                      Yes that's him exactly, he said he was in charge there today.
                      Originally posted by gwgn02
                      G-shock, a good way to tell the time, and better way to tell the female variety you are unworthy mating material.

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                      • #12
                        vg247
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 1071

                        Originally posted by ZombieLivesMatter
                        Yes that's him exactly, he said he was in charge there today.
                        Yikes, sorry for your wasted time..thanks for sharing so the community knows....be warned not all employees are created equal folks.

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                        • #13
                          heidad01
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 4902

                          Originally posted by ZombieLivesMatter
                          Yes that's him exactly, he said he was in charge there today.
                          This qualifies it as a certified Douche Alert at Gun Effects.

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                          • #14
                            ZombieLivesMatter
                            Veteran Member
                            • Feb 2016
                            • 2533

                            Wasn't trying to call anyone out specifically, he could have good intentions for all I know. My main point is it's frustrating having to deal with gun stores making up their own laws that aren't there in addition to all the ridiculous laws we really have with California.
                            But I'm over it, it could be worse and we could be in Mexico or China and have no gun rights. I got two stores giving me the thumbs up and confirming with me they're up-to-date with the laws, Guns Direct and Aces both are top notch and knowledgeable.
                            Originally posted by gwgn02
                            G-shock, a good way to tell the time, and better way to tell the female variety you are unworthy mating material.

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                            • #15
                              BigPimping
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 21443

                              We need to grade shops on legal knowledge of gun laws.
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