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  • Seesm
    Calguns Addict
    • Nov 2008
    • 7812

    Curious about DROS

    I searched but did not find any answer.... I am just curious when did they start (in California anyway) needing to do PPT and DROS on a used gun? I think in Nevada and some other states you do not need to do this still.... (In free states)

    Just curious as years ago I got a rifle and sold it cuz my Mom did not want a gun in the house and I am curious when they made it law to do the selling through a dealer...

    I am not talking super old as I have bought some 50+ year rifles FTF and such but I am talking newer (old) guns... For that matter let's say handguns and or rifles 49 yrs old or newer...?

    I hope I am making sense.

    Thanks
  • #2
    Librarian
    Admin and Poltergeist
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 44646

    1991 was when the law changed to require using a California-licensed FFL for almost all transfers.

    DROS itself dates from 1924, but not all transfers had to go through dealers.
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    • #3
      Seesm
      Calguns Addict
      • Nov 2008
      • 7812

      Right... So 1991 you were required to do all transfers through them? For Long guns.... The Dros dates back further for just handguns? I have alot of stuff from my Grandpa he left for me when he passed on but I have bought stuff with the dros system and some over 50 year old guns.... Just curious of all the timelines...

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      • #4
        Vin496
        Calguns Addict
        • Mar 2008
        • 8804

        All gun transfers had to go through an FFL starting in 1991. The only exceptions are long rifles over 50 years old.
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        • #5
          CSACANNONEER
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          • Dec 2006
          • 44093

          DROS date back to 1924 for all guns that went through a dealer. That doesn't mean that there was a wait or background check. It just means that the dealer had to keep a record of sale (Dealer Record Of Sale). Also, it did not apply to any gun that was transfered without going through a dealer. In 1924 that would have included PPTs involving SBRs, MGs, handgranades and other DDs (I don't think the term was around yet), handguns, long guns, AOWs, etc.
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          • #6
            Seesm
            Calguns Addict
            • Nov 2008
            • 7812

            Right... OK so a long gun bought lets say in like 1971-91 (using only as a example) PPT would have not had to go through a dealer but a handgun would?

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            • #7
              leelaw
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              • Oct 2005
              • 10445

              PPT was still private pre-91

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              • #8
                Librarian
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                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Oct 2005
                • 44646

                Originally posted by Seesm
                Right... OK so a long gun bought lets say in like 1971-91 (using only as a example) PPT would have not had to go through a dealer but a handgun would?
                No, no transactions (outside full auto, I suppose) needed to use a dealer before 1991. Anything before then may or may not have gone through a CA licensed dealer - either way was legal. Pre-91 dealer handgun transactions would have gone through DROS.

                ETA - this is within-CA only; interstate transactions would generally have needed an FFL somewhere in the process, but I wasn't buying guns before 91, so I don't know how interstate sales worked, in detail, at that time.
                Last edited by Librarian; 03-16-2009, 11:45 AM.
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                • #9
                  Saigon1965
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                  • Nov 2003
                  • 17276

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                  • #10
                    Seesm
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 7812

                    Ahhhh.... got it.

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