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  • Libertyvirgins
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2015
    • 76

    FFL that will accept ammo shipments

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    Libertyvirgins
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2015
    • 76

    Del Valle Gunsmithing in Marina was my first maybe. “Probably next week” “haven’t figured out taxes and fees yet”.

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    • #3
      heidad01
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 4902

      Is this a fishing expedition? By the county??

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      • #4
        edgerly779
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Aug 2009
        • 19871

        Ft Courage in Simi Valley

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        • #5
          caliberetta
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2014
          • 2751

          In Orange County, OnTarget Range. $5 if you're there when the ammo arrives, $25 if picked up within 3 days. (up to 1k rds. Fee goes up for more than that). They will also charge the mandated CA Sales tax.

          You have to pre-inform them your ammo is arriving. If you don't do that and your ammo randomly arrives, there is a $75 penalty on top.

          Considering the hoops they have to jump through to receive, document, store, process, tax and assume legal risk, I'd say the charges are not unreasonable considering the legal risk and logistics.

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          • #6
            Libertyvirgins
            Junior Member
            • Sep 2015
            • 76

            Originally posted by heidad01
            Is this a fishing expedition? By the county??
            Yeah fishing for places that will accept ammo. Not everyone is a troll

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            • #7
              edgerly779
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Aug 2009
              • 19871

              Is sales tax mandated? What about ppt at vendor/ffl?

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              • #8
                Greg B
                Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 295

                I wonder if Cabelas would ship to a local Bass Pro?
                They are one and the same now.......

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                • #9
                  Eureka1911
                  Member
                  • Dec 2017
                  • 367

                  Originally posted by caliberetta
                  In Orange County, OnTarget Range. $5 if you're there when the ammo arrives, $25 if picked up within 3 days. (up to 1k rds. Fee goes up for more than that). They will also charge the mandated CA Sales tax.
                  I'm not sure if they still have it on their website, but the original version said they would charge sales tax on the full current retail price they charge, which seem like it would be unlawful since all they need to do is charge sales tax on the actual price.

                  Considering the hoops they have to jump through to receive, document, store, process, tax and assume legal risk, I'd say the charges are not unreasonable considering the legal risk and logistics.
                  Seems like it, especially if you can meet UPS/FedEx at the door.

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                  • #10
                    Eureka1911
                    Member
                    • Dec 2017
                    • 367

                    Originally posted by edgerly779
                    Is sales tax mandated? What about ppt at vendor/ffl?
                    Technically we are supposed to be paying sales tax right now on all Internet purchases we make if the seller does not already collect it.

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                    • #11
                      caliberetta
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 2751

                      Originally posted by Eureka1911
                      I'm not sure if they still have it on their website, but the original version said they would charge sales tax on the full current retail price they charge, which seem like it would be unlawful since all they need to do is charge sales tax on the actual price.
                      I don't recall seeing that on their new Ammo Receiving contract. If that is true that would be very questionable practice. I don't think this is true.

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                      • #12
                        aklon
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 3118

                        Trader's in Castro Valley. Mark will work with you, get a good price, and the ammunition will arrive within ten days at his place of business.
                        Freedom is the dream you dream while putting thought in chains.

                        - Giacomo Leopardi

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                        • #13
                          BillSmith
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2017
                          • 563

                          Technically we are supposed to be paying sales tax right now on all Internet purchases we make if the seller does not already collect it.


                          To my knowledge, the above is true.

                          ... they would charge sales tax on the full current retail price they charge, which seem like it would be unlawful since all they need to do is charge sales tax on the actual price.


                          Unlawful? Ah, but this is California. Our elected officials foist fee, levies and taxes with no basis of reason.

                          You've bought a cell phone, right? Discounted when you sign up for a 'plan'. But you pay tax on the full retail value, not the discounted amount.

                          Same here regarding interstate purchases. Why? `Cause the citizens passed Prop 13 and legislators have made us pay that save property tax elsewhere over and over and over again.
                          Sometimes a gun is just a gun.

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                          • #14
                            caliberetta
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jan 2014
                            • 2751

                            Originally posted by BillSmith

                            (snip)

                            You've bought a cell phone, right? Discounted when you sign up for a 'plan'. But you pay tax on the full retail value, not the discounted amount.

                            Same here regarding interstate purchases. Why? `Cause the citizens passed Prop 13 and legislators have made us pay that save property tax elsewhere over and over and over again.
                            (Welcome to Calguns)

                            You are comparing apples to oranges.

                            The purchase of a financed phone, much like the purchase of a car, includes the mandatory payment of CA Taxes for the full amount paid for that item.

                            The discussion above is not like this at all. It was about the Ammo Dealer charging taxes on items (their store stocked ammo) that was NOT actually purchased. They can only charge tax on the actual item purchased, at the exact price it was purchased for.

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                            • #15
                              caliberetta
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jan 2014
                              • 2751

                              Originally posted by Eureka1911
                              I'm not sure if they still have it on their website, but the original version said they would charge sales tax on the full current retail price they charge, which seem like it would be unlawful since all they need to do is charge sales tax on the actual price.
                              Ok, I just checked again. Now, I don't know if they had a previous version, but this is a version just posted a couple days ago by the owner.

                              Below is a screenshot of their contract, see the part I encircled:

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