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  • DB2
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 1542

    Suspended priviledge = denial of rights?

    Interesting how in this great state of California, one can be denied his constitutional rights due to a suspended priviledge. Case in point; a suspended DL (priviledge) fails you from DROSing a firearm (right).

    Long story short, I was rejected on a Dros due to a temporary suspended drivers liscense. The liscense thing is my own fault and should have been taken care of sooner. But what fascinates me is how my drivers liscense with current info (even though temp suspended), and a squeeky clean back ground check won't work to DROS a firearm. Because my DL is suspended does that mean I'm not who it says I am? I guess it's not a valid ID anymore.

    Now I need to pay California $14 to reinstate my DL so I can DROS again. It's my own lazy *** fault for not taking my proof of insurance in to verify I had it, although now it shows in there computer as being valid. Frigin DMV.

    And no, I had no idea my DL was suspended, until the shop called.
  • #2
    ETD1010
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2006
    • 1298

    no, you can get an California ID card and use that for DROS if you have a suspended/revoked/expired, etc driver's license.

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    • #3
      SJgunguy24
      I need a LIFE!!
      • May 2008
      • 14849

      Originally posted by ETD1010
      no, you can get an California ID card and use that for DROS if you have a suspended/revoked/expired, etc driver's license.
      Yep 100% I have DROS go through on at least 8 different firearms and became an 03 FFL with a suspended license.
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      • #4
        Trader Jack
        Banned
        • Oct 2005
        • 452

        Originally posted by ETD1010
        no, you can get an California ID card and use that for DROS if you have a suspended/revoked/expired, etc driver's license.
        That will not work. The California ID is the same number as your CDL and it will also be considered as invalid for a dros.

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        • #5
          ohsmily
          Calguns Addict
          • Apr 2005
          • 8950

          Originally posted by Trader Jack
          That will not work. The California ID is the same number as your CDL and it will also be considered as invalid for a dros.
          A valid California ID card will work just fine.
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          • #6
            nick
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            • Aug 2008
            • 19151

            Originally posted by Trader Jack
            That will not work. The California ID is the same number as your CDL and it will also be considered as invalid for a dros.
            An ID, while having the same number as the DL, is not suspended when your DL is suspended.
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            • #7
              leelaw
              Junior Member
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2005
              • 10445

              Originally posted by Trader Jack
              That will not work. The California ID is the same number as your CDL and it will also be considered as invalid for a dros.
              If the CID is valid, then DROS will not be denied. Remember that DROS forms specify between CDL and CID.

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              • #8
                barrykay
                Banned
                • Dec 2007
                • 123

                Originally posted by leelaw
                If the CID is valid, then DROS will not be denied. Remember that DROS forms specify between CDL and CID.
                Very true. BUT, If it is cross checked with the DMV and if a suspended license comes up, they can and will put a DMV hold on it. I have had it happen to me.

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                • #9
                  saki302
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 7187

                  Just out of academic curiosity- is a U.S. Passport an acceptable alternative to a driver's license?

                  -Dave

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                  • #10
                    Vin496
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 8804

                    Originally posted by saki302
                    Just out of academic curiosity- is a U.S. Passport an acceptable alternative to a driver's license?

                    -Dave
                    No,

                    A passport is proof of US citizenship. You must be a resident in the State you are purchasing a gun, and a passport does not show this information.
                    I think it can be confirmed that an alien xenomorph is absolutely no match for good ole' Alabama black snake!

                    and

                    If you're in a survival movie and the hot blond twists her ankle and can't walk, you damn well figure a way to carry her. If it's a dude, you shake his hand and say "best of luck".

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                    • #11
                      Darklyte27
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                      • May 2008
                      • 9372

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                      • #12
                        Rob454
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                        • Feb 2006
                        • 11254

                        I dont get it? How is it the DMVs fault you got your license suspended? The reason that its done this way is because there are too many people who get in trouble somehow and theire afraid the said person will go out buy a gun come back to the courtroom, or witness or whatever circumstance they got their lic revoked and come back shooting.
                        So why was the license suspended?

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                        • #13
                          IGOTDIRT4U
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 10861

                          Originally posted by Darklyte27
                          You are not required to DRIVE to buy a gun...

                          You are not required to have a DL to buy a car!

                          And the correct answer is that a CID will work even if the CDL is suspended.
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                          • #14
                            Vin496
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 8804

                            Originally posted by Rob454
                            I dont get it? How is it the DMVs fault you got your license suspended? The reason that its done this way is because there are too many people who get in trouble somehow and theire afraid the said person will go out buy a gun come back to the courtroom, or witness or whatever circumstance they got their lic revoked and come back shooting.
                            So why was the license suspended?
                            WTF are you talking about?

                            He never said it was the DMVs fault, and the rest of your post is complete FUD!!

                            I'm hoping you were trying to be sarcastic, but it just didn't translate well.
                            I think it can be confirmed that an alien xenomorph is absolutely no match for good ole' Alabama black snake!

                            and

                            If you're in a survival movie and the hot blond twists her ankle and can't walk, you damn well figure a way to carry her. If it's a dude, you shake his hand and say "best of luck".

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                            • #15
                              DB2
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 1542

                              Originally posted by Rob454
                              I dont get it? How is it the DMVs fault you got your license suspended? The reason that its done this way is because there are too many people who get in trouble somehow and theire afraid the said person will go out buy a gun come back to the courtroom, or witness or whatever circumstance they got their lic revoked and come back shooting.
                              So why was the license suspended?
                              Didn't say it was the DMVs fault. Here is what I said.

                              It's my own lazy *** fault for not taking my proof of insurance in to verify I had it, although now it shows in there computer as being valid.
                              Liscense is suspended due to no valid insurance on file, WHEN I was pulled over for tags. I didn't have my Farmers binder with me. The insurance is on file now, but I didn't take it to the court personally to get it signed off. = liscense suspended.


                              As far as the rest of your post, lets just say it's entertaining. I would not need a new gun to shoot up a court room. the DOJ already knows that.


                              I just find it interesting how a priviledge trumps a right. Never had experience with that before. The 4 gun Dros probably didn't help.
                              Last edited by DB2; 03-14-2009, 10:23 AM.

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