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  • tankarian
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 4194

    Belt fed .22 rimfire AR15



    Since CA only restricts removable MAGAZINES over 10 rounds (doesn't apply to fixed tubular loading magazines like those of rimfire lever guns), and an ammo belt isn't a magazine, theoretically a belt fed rimfire rifle should be legal.
    Oppinions?
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    edgerly779
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Aug 2009
    • 19871

    10 roundbelts was reg but I think for now larger ok
    Last edited by edgerly779; 11-25-2017, 9:19 PM.

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    • #3
      LEAD LAUNCHER
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2013
      • 1938

      Belts are considered magazines, so the same rules apply.

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      • #4
        Spyder
        CGN Contributor
        • Mar 2008
        • 17123

        It's frickin' cool though. I want.

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          colossians323
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          • #6
            tankarian
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 4194

            Originally posted by LEAD LAUNCHER
            Belts are considered magazines, so the same rules apply.
            If belts are considered magazines, then what are tubular magazines?
            Not magazines?
            BLACK RIFLES MATTER!

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            • #7
              SPC G
              Member
              • Dec 2007
              • 239

              You can have them here in ca. Your belts are limited to 10 rnds. Other then that you are good to go.

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              • #8
                FNP45TACTICAL
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 705

                Originally posted by tankarian
                If belts are considered magazines, then what are tubular magazines?
                Not magazines?

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                • #9
                  Batman
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 2623

                  Originally posted by SPC G
                  You can have them here in ca. Your belts are limited to 10 rnds. Other then that you are good to go.
                  Unless you had belts before 1/1/2000 and the injunction holds for the magazine ban.

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                  • #10
                    Quiet
                    retired Goon
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 30242

                    Originally posted by tankarian
                    If belts are considered magazines, then what are tubular magazines?
                    Not magazines?
                    Under CA laws...

                    They are all considered ammuniton feeding devices.

                    A "large capacity magazine" is an ammunition feeding device that can accept more than 10 rounds of ammunition. [PC 16740]

                    Fixed tubular magazine on .22 caliber any action (bolt-action/lever-action/pump-action/semi-auto) firearm (pistol/rifle/shotgun) is exempt from CA large capacity magazine laws. [PC 16740(b)]

                    Fixed tubular magazine on any caliber lever-action firearm (pistol/rifle/shotgun) is exempt from CA large capacity magazine laws. [PC 16740(c)]




                    Penal Code 16740
                    As used in this part, “large-capacity magazine” means any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include any of the following:
                    (a) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
                    (b) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
                    (c) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm.
                    Last edited by Quiet; 11-27-2017, 6:27 PM.
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                    • #11
                      MudCamper
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                      • Mar 2007
                      • 4595

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                      • #12
                        ojisan
                        Agent 86
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 11768

                        Wow that runs great!
                        Too much fun!

                        Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
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                        • #13
                          command_liner
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2009
                          • 1177

                          There is a good chance I influenced the code as it exists now. When the regulation was proposed I went back and forth with the DOJ on this issue.

                          One make an extremely large capacity gravity fed tubular magazine with careful attention to geometry. In fact, how is a "milk carton" of 22LR not a
                          "large capacity magazine"? I worked on this for a while with the DOJ.
                          Almost certainly others pointed out the same sort of things. Tube magazines
                          and loose-pack 22LR were going to be banned.
                          What about the 19th? Can the Commerce Clause be used to make it illegal for voting women to buy shoes from another state?

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                            CSACANNONEER
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                            • Dec 2006
                            • 44093

                            Originally posted by tankarian
                            http://www.gunbroker.com/item/720338007

                            Since CA only restricts removable MAGAZINES over 10 rounds (doesn't apply to fixed tubular loading magazines like those of rimfire lever guns), and an ammo belt isn't a magazine, theoretically a belt fed rimfire rifle should be legal.
                            Oppinions?
                            My opinion is that you need to read CA PC and not just guess on what a LCM is. My other opinion is that the gun you listed is a STEAL at the starting bid. Too bad we don't know what the reserve is. I', glad to see that someone has taken over where LM left off. Hopefully, they will be making disintegrating links soon and they will work in my LM upper.
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                              audiophil2
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                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8736

                              the new manufacturers website lists the upper for 1350. eric sold these for as low as 700 before he changed to the 1919 style version.
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