Prince50 vs AR Mag Lock

[r8dr rider]

How are these two different in regard to the law? They both have an option to use a tool to allow the mag release to act as normal. This is great for double feeds, but what about the upcoming law?

[meno377]

How are these two different in regard to the law? They both have an option to use a tool to allow the mag release to act as normal. This is great for double feeds, but what about the upcoming law?

Armaglock works when you open the action. It acts like a standard magazine release when the action is open. I don't remember the Prince 50 doing that.

[r8dr rider]

Prince50 does the same unless you back out the screw then acts as a reg Mag release. But like looking at the AR Mag lock it does the same If You use the hex screw

[Cokebottle]

Prince50 does the same unless you back out the screw then acts as a reg Mag release. But like looking at the AR Mag lock it does the same If You use the hex screw

The original P50, which used a grub screw to "lock" the magazine release down, has never been legal to use in a manner that actually released a magazine. Its legal purpose was to lock a magazine into place, which was considered to be the only legal way to go prior to the development of the Bullet Button.
Backing out the screw with a centerfire upper attached has always created an assault weapon.
Now, as of 2017, the original P50 is no longer a legal compliance device because it allows for the removal of the magazine using a tool and can be done with the upper attached and hinged closed.

The Patriot Button, which is the current compliant magazine lock from P50, includes a flat cap that is tapped into the opening after verifying function. This prevents a "tool" from being used to disengage the device. While not completely permanent, disabling the P50 entails destroying it.

ARMaglock has a Youtube video where the owner DEMONSTRATES using a tool to back out the screw to "clear a malfunction" and he describes it as being legal because HE refers to it as a repair and not merely "detaching the magazine"
His explanation is because his "tool" is not used IN THE SAME MANNER AS A BULLET BUTTON. That is NOT what the law states. The law states that the magazine is not fixed if it can be removed without disassembly of the FIREARM. He is not disassembling the firearm... he is removing his magazine lock, which, under the DOJ regulations, creates a non-fixed magazine.

So he demonstrates something on Youtube that is flat out illegal, and then the friggin idiot has the balls to file a lawsuit against anyone who manufactures a competing device, even if the design is completely different.

Eff him and his company. The ARMaglock is not a legal compliance device.

[Cokebottle]

Armaglock works when you open the action. It acts like a standard magazine release when the action is open. I don't remember the Prince 50 doing that.

The difference between the ARMaglock and the Patriot Button is the method of attachment of the left and right hand parts, and the Patriot Button's attachment is covered, ARMaglock is exposed.

The original Prince50 is no longer a legal compliance device for a non-registered AR.

Clearing a misfeed?

[r8dr rider]

^lol great info. It all makes sense now

[colossians323]

How sad we are that we are trying to figure out the best way to make sure are guns don't function correctly

[r8dr rider]