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  • Rusty_Shackleferd
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2014
    • 1107

    How CA laws have improved my collection

    i'll keep this short and sweet.

    Californian gun laws suck harder than a Hoover; that's a given. But a derivative effect I've noticed is the quality of firearm and firearm components I own is quite high. This is not a brag, but rather an an observation that I have a significantly less quantity of firearms then I want, but the quality of what I have compensates for my lack of variety. My main purchases now are upgrades to my current collection in the form of reloading supplies, optics, triggers, barrels, etc.

    Does anyone else see themselves frequently foregoing a new bang stick in favor of upgrading their current inventory because of how restrictive CA laws are?Moreover, do you think the quality of your arsenal would not be what it is now, compared to if you lived in America and you were unrestrained by what you could purchase/own?
  • #2
    Mayor McRifle
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2013
    • 7667

    Originally posted by Rusty_Shackleferd
    Does anyone else see themselves frequently foregoing a new bang stick in favor of upgrading their current inventory because of how restrictive CA laws are?
    I just forgo calling my guns "bang sticks."
    Anchors Aweigh

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    • #3
      Two Nuggets
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2016
      • 1054

      Most of my “collection” was acquired before SSE ended. I was part of the handgun per month crowd for off roster pistols.

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      • #4
        triplestack3
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 1286

        No.

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        • #5
          9mmContagion
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 3242

          Quality over quantity! Sold off all of my average guns to acquire higher quality guns
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          • #6
            beanz2
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Nov 2008
            • 12032

            I can't imagine adding expensive optics, AR uppers and parts would've made my rifles more "high quality". A cheap AR lower is a cheap lower, even with a Noveske upper. How in the heck would I upgrade an AK now? It's true that at the end of 2016, I gravitated toward buying higher end guns that I would have. If I were still imprisoned in that great state of yours, my collection would've stayed static because nothing that can be legally obtained is just boring.

            If anything, the CA laws would've frozen my collection.
            Last edited by beanz2; 09-28-2017, 7:21 AM.
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            • #7
              jaysantosauxiliarypolice
              Banned
              • Mar 2017
              • 216

              I don't have a lot of money to blow so I buy not the cheapest, but the cheapest of the "good" guns.

              I buy SA over Glock. IMO spending an extra $150 for a Glock over a SA is not worth it. I don't care about the accessories or trigger upgrades. So long as the gun goes bang when I pull the trigger, I'm happy.

              Same with an AR. I didn't buy the cheapest, but it's the cheapest "good" rifle manufacturer. I'm not trying to take out a target 400 yards away.

              What I can't stand are gun snob elitist. If a HiPoint is all one can afford, leave them alone. They're not willing to charge a $1,500 Kimber on their Visa card at 28% interest. They're not willing to sell a kidney so they can assemble a $3,000 AR.

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              • #8
                Skip_Dog
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2017
                • 2656

                I do not have all the guns I want. And it is due to the roster and not paying a ton of cash for what I want from those that are willing to sell off roster stuff.

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                • #9
                  Rusty_Shackleferd
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 1107

                  Originally posted by Mayor McRifle
                  I just forgo calling my guns "bang sticks."
                  It was my attempt at being light-hearted, much like how you did with your username :^)

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                  • #10
                    reverser
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 710

                    Originally posted by Rusty_Shackleferd
                    It was my attempt at being light-hearted, much like how you did with your username :^)
                    Originally posted by sfarchitect
                    The days of scared old white people, terrified that life and the world has passed them by running America is coming to a close.

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                    • #11
                      Dano3467
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 7381

                      I would like to be part of that crowd, (custom work) but sadly not.

                      I am however part of the buy all you can club in CA, as soon it will become more difficult to obtain ammunition. This is my priority now !

                      Sadly I'm running low on places to put it (ammo) an it's showing more & more, but I'm ok with that

                      But restocking is gonna be a B**** ! next yr.

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                      • #12
                        kcheung2
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 4387

                        On the face of it I can see your argument. Higher item costs & higher transaction costs would discourage impulse buys and encourage more discerning purchases. If it costs ($X+ extra CA costs) then it better be a good one.

                        But I think the opposite would be more true. In free America the lower item costs, lower transaction costs, and more venues for transactions would lead to a better collection for the same cost. Other states have real gun shows (vs the CA beef-jerky shows), higher density of gun shops, a large population that views guns as normal, and the ability to place an ad in Craigslist & meet in a parking lot. All of those factors make transactions more common & easier for a collector to build up a quality collection for less than CA prices.
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                        • #13
                          Win231
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2015
                          • 2099

                          Originally posted by jaysantosauxiliarypolice
                          I don't have a lot of money to blow so I buy not the cheapest, but the cheapest of the "good" guns.

                          I buy SA over Glock. IMO spending an extra $150 for a Glock over a SA is not worth it. I don't care about the accessories or trigger upgrades. So long as the gun goes bang when I pull the trigger, I'm happy.

                          Same with an AR. I didn't buy the cheapest, but it's the cheapest "good" rifle manufacturer. I'm not trying to take out a target 400 yards away.

                          What I can't stand are gun snob elitist. If a HiPoint is all one can afford, leave them alone. They're not willing to charge a $1,500 Kimber on their Visa card at 28% interest. They're not willing to sell a kidney so they can assemble a $3,000 AR.
                          Personally, I don't subscribe to the "All or nothing" mentality. Quality can be easily found between a $150.00 Hi Point and a $1,500.00 Kimber....for anywhere between $500.00 - $900.00.

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                          • #14
                            ar15barrels
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 57118

                            Originally posted by Mayor McRifle
                            I just forgo calling my guns "bang sticks."
                            Randall Rausch

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                            • #15
                              Rusty_Shackleferd
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2014
                              • 1107

                              Originally posted by triplestack3
                              This is pretty accurate. I have seen a lot of stuff come up for sale that I couldn't fathom ever being able to pick up if I was still in CA. Plenty of cool stuff like a Galil, Norinco Type 84, MAK-90, IMI Uzi, Polytech M-14, suppressors, SBRs, MAC-11 (full auto), and all sorts of other fun items. Also saw an AR-180 for something like $1700 or so. A lot of these items don't really get "upgraded." With the exception of stamped items, transactions are as easy as meeting in the parking lot at Dairy Queen.
                              Interestingly though, the density of gun shops is probably about the same as CA. Internet sales probably have a major influence on retail store location density. Some shops don't even charge a transfer fee.

                              At the end of the day, more restrictions do not result in a higher quality collection. Restrictions put an artificial ceiling on collections.
                              Very good points. I did not mean to imply that I am satisfied with my truncated list of options, but rather I try to do the best with what I have under current local law. I probably will not go on a shopping spree when i move, but i will be more inclined to buy something different rather than compromise with what I have.

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