Is a lockable backpack considered a "locked container" for handgun transport law??

[Nickalapokis]

Title speaks for itself. I believe it meets CA law but this is CA.

Im asking since I know in North Vegas they consider an unloaded or loaded handgun in a backpack(even locked) to be concealed on your person even if its in a car unless you have a LTC. They would still require you to have an actual vault box/safe.

If I am in compliance; Locked, no mag inserted, and no round chambered; does a backpack count as a locked container for transport?

[G38xOC]

they have soft lockable cases , I suppose it's ok . that's usually how I take my pistols to the range

[DEFCON ZERO]

I hope so.

Thats how I roll in the Battle-Van

I keep the tag that says "lockable zipper" in the bag.

If Walmart says so that makes it legal, right?

[reverser]

Just make sure they're lockable zipper pulls and not just regular ones that you're locking together. Otherwise, you can open it with the locks on. I ride to the range with a backpack sometimes and use a locked case inside of it because it doesn't have appropriate zipper pulls.

Title speaks for itself. I believe it meets CA law but this is CA.

Im asking since I know in North Vegas they consider an unloaded or loaded handgun in a backpack(even locked) to be concealed on your person even if its in a car unless you have a LTC. They would still require you to have an actual vault box/safe.

If I am in compliance; Locked, no mag inserted, and no round chambered; does a backpack count as a locked container for transport?

[strakill]

I keep mine in a back pack with loops in the standard zipper and a lock through the loops. I can't even open it up 1/2".

[WWDHD?]

Lots of arguments about this. For many years this is how I always transported unloaded handguns to the range and back. As far as I know a backpack (I used a common Jansport) with a small padlock through the zipper pulls satisfies CA law. Now I use a bla-grey, soft sided range bag I found on amazon (Osage River brand? IDK) that has padlock loops as part of the zipper pull base to lock the zippers more securely than using just the pulls. I like this set-up better than the backpack.

[sonofeugene]

Why not put the guns each in their own soft case, lock those, and toss them in a regular backpack? Doesn't take up much extra room and it keeps the guns from banging into each other.

[echopapa]

What about a lockable fanny-pack?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01FI40QRO/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1UJAAG5YNUHXV&psc=1

Although not sure if LEO would consider carrying if you had it strapped on.

[unusedusername]

The statute does not define a locked container other then it needs to be fully enclosed.

I've heard a lawyer reccomend that you should make sure that a 10 year old can't get into your container while on the witness stand without tools. I don't know of any requirements for such in the law, but it seems like a reasonable suggestion.

[SkyHawk]

Can be opened with a ball point pen. Is it secure? Your fate may rest in the hands of a CA jury. Proceed accordingly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JvmAktLvFg

[code_blue]

The locked compartment of a backpack where you are storing the firearm is considered as a locked container.

As others have stated, CA doesn't define what a locked container is only that it must be fully enclosed and locked with a locking device.

Straight from DOJ:

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/travel

Pursuant to California Penal Code section 16850, the term "locked container" means a secure container that is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination lock, or similar locking device.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?sectionNum=16850.&lawCode=PEN

Penal Code - PEN
PART 6. CONTROL OF DEADLY WEAPONS [16000 - 34370] ( Part 6 added by Stats. 2010, Ch. 711, Sec. 6. )
TITLE 1. PRELIMINARY PROVISIONS [16000 - 17360] ( Title 1 added by Stats. 2010, Ch. 711, Sec. 6. )
DIVISION 2. DEFINITIONS [16100 - 17360] ( Division 2 added by Stats. 2010, Ch. 711, Sec. 6. )

16850.

As used in this part, “locked container” means a secure container that is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, keylock, combination lock, or similar locking device. The term “locked container” does not include the utility or glove compartment of a motor vehicle.
(Amended by Stats. 2014, Ch. 103, Sec. 5. Effective January 1, 2015.)

[Quiet]

Title speaks for itself. I believe it meets CA law but this is CA.

Im asking since I know in North Vegas they consider an unloaded or loaded handgun in a backpack(even locked) to be concealed on your person even if its in a car unless you have a LTC. They would still require you to have an actual vault box/safe.

If I am in compliance; Locked, no mag inserted, and no round chambered; does a backpack count as a locked container for transport?

See post #11 for CA.


Nevada laws are different from CA laws.

NV laws prohibits concealed carry without a valid carry permit.
^This includes being on your own property (in your own residence).

NV case laws includes "concealed upon your person" to a firearm being in a portable container (e.g. case, pack, purse, bag).
NV courts are allowing "unloaded and in a locked container" to be exempt from this due to this complying with Federal firearm transport laws [18 USC 926A].

Some anti-gun NV LE agencies enforce "concealed upon your person" to include locked containers and let's the DA's Office/Courts decide on to kick it back or not.

[reverser]

Umm, if you fold it a certain way I bet you can unzip both sides at the same time.

I keep mine in a back pack with loops in the standard zipper and a lock through the loops. I can't even open it up 1/2".

[Librarian]

The statute does not define a locked container other then it needs to be fully enclosed.

I've heard a lawyer reccomend that you should make sure that a 10 year old can't get into your container while on the witness stand without tools. I don't know of any requirements for such in the law, but it seems like a reasonable suggestion.

Really? I hadn't heard my post had crawled out of Calguns into wider view - http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...3&postcount=22

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