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  • deebix
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 737

    No longer in possession curiosity

    If as a California citizen, one were to remove all firearms the state might know about and store them over in the United States, can one honestly and legally fill out a "no longer in possession" form? What is the DOJ's definition of "possession" ?

    This is the form in question: https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/a...46NLIP0209.pdf

    Serious question, thanks.
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    Noggles
    Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 227

    Yes.
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    • #3
      P5Ret
      Calguns Addict
      • Oct 2010
      • 6388

      Why? Filling out the form does nothing to remove the historical record of you having owned them at one time. Also the form probably won't be processed unless you put the information of who you transferred them to. Don't forget like most government documents signing it is under penalty of perjury, a felony that would bring a lifetime firearms ban.

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      • #4
        SamGoldstein
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 1011

        If you move your firearms out of Kommiefornia, why would you EVER want to tell the commie rats where you put them???????

        If they come to look for your firearms and they are not in your physical possession, its to bad for the commie rats. But don't tell them wehere they can find them, its none of their business.

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        • #5
          Quiet
          retired Goon
          • Mar 2007
          • 30242

          Originally posted by P5Ret
          Why? Filling out the form does nothing to remove the historical record of you having owned them at one time. Also the form probably won't be processed unless you put the information of who you transferred them to. Don't forget like most government documents signing it is under penalty of perjury, a felony that would bring a lifetime firearms ban.
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          • #6
            deebix
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2008
            • 737

            Thanks for replies. Im considering a storage unit in a free state since I don't like driving with firearms in this state, hence the question.

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            • #7
              BigPimping
              CGN Contributor
              • Feb 2010
              • 21462

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              • #8
                Skip_Dog
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2017
                • 2656

                Another unfortunate boating accident.

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                • #9
                  Spaffo
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2013
                  • 1346

                  Storage units are burglar bait.

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                  • #10
                    Jimi Jah
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 19057

                    In California, you are not a citizen but a resident, there is a large legal difference.

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                    • #11
                      Jimmy's
                      Veteran Member
                      • May 2016
                      • 2600

                      Originally posted by deebix
                      Thanks for replies. Im considering a storage unit in a free state since I don't like driving with firearms in this state, hence the question.
                      Just move solve all your problems with one easy FIX.

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                      • #12
                        zinfull
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 2733

                        No. If you read the form they ask how they were disposed and who bought the gun. You would be filling a false report.

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                        • #13
                          RandyD
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 6673

                          You do not need to inform or obtain consent from the State of California to store your firearms outside of the state
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                          • #14
                            OlderThanDirt
                            FUBAR
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 5975

                            Originally posted by Jimi Jah
                            In California, you are not a citizen but a resident, there is a large legal difference.
                            This is incorrect. In California you are a Subject, which has been codified in Penal Code Section 5471(s), Firearm Manufactured By Unlicensed Subject.
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                            • #15
                              JCHavasu
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2016
                              • 672

                              Uh, no. The form is very specific. It does not allow you to just state "no longer in possession". You have to follow that up with where the gun went. Who it was transferred to, etc. For instance if you check "transferred firearm out of state":
                              • If you check "Transferred firearm out of state," list the name and address of the person who purchased/obtained the
                              firearm and the date of the sale or transfer, and the name, address, telephone number and, if known, the Federal Firearms
                              License (FFL) number of the firearms dealer(s) who conducted the sale/transfer. You must also attach any relevant
                              documentation of the sale or transfer, such as a sales receipt.
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