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  • MarikinaMan
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2015
    • 4864

    AR500 target keeps jumping off hanger?


    Any tips on how to hang AR500 off this hanger?

    I had it like this. 6.5 Creedmor at 400-and 500 knocks it up and off every few shots.





    Is torquing it down the only solution? Not preferred coz it prolongs set up down range. Change bolt hardware? Throw out the hangers? Tips appreciated.
    Last edited by MarikinaMan; 08-05-2017, 9:24 AM.
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    MarikinaMan
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2015
    • 4864

    AR500 target keeping jumping off hanger?


    Any tips on how to hang AR500 off this hanger?

    I had it like this. 6.5 Creedmor at 400-and 500 knocks it up and off every few shots.



    Is torquing it down the only solution? Not preferred coz it prolongs set up down range. Change bolt hardware? Throw out the hangers? Tips appreciated.

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    • #3
      Brush Guard
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2015
      • 888

      Are you shooting uphill?

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      • #4
        SMarquez
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 2216

        I think you have the wrong set up for rifle. Too much energy even at 4-500 yards. That might be OK for handgun and relatively low energy but for rifle I would think you would want a hanging target that could swing with impact.

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        • #5
          MarikinaMan
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2015
          • 4864

          Originally posted by Brush Guard
          Are you shooting uphill?
          No. Pretty much straight on. It jumps off particularly on lower torso hits. Weird.

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          • #6
            j15w
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 869

            Ziptie?
            It was just an old plywood boat, with a '75 Johnson, with electric choke. A young boy, two hands on the wheel, I can't replace the way it made me feel.

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            • #7
              MarikinaMan
              Veteran Member
              • Nov 2015
              • 4864

              Originally posted by SMarquez
              I think you have the wrong set up for rifle. Too much energy even at 4-500 yards. That might be OK for handgun and relatively low energy but for rifle I would think you would want a hanging target that could swing with impact.
              Double post. Apologies. Mod please correct.

              It does swing if I leave it loose. But it jumps off too.

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              • #8
                MarikinaMan
                Veteran Member
                • Nov 2015
                • 4864

                Originally posted by j15w
                Ziptie?
                If the bullet can lift a 15 pound plate, I think the ziptie would not last very long.

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                • #9
                  Fenr1r
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 599

                  I have the same setup but only used it at 100-150 yards for .223 and close up for handguns. I've never had it jump off the holder but I mounted it slightly different.

                  I put the screw in then tightened it down with a locking nut to the target. Then placed two washers and then another locking nut spaced further back. The hook on the holder is sandwiched between two washers and since the target is held in place with a locking nut it's pretty solid but still has movement.

                  Also make sure you screw in the target holder and stand into the 2x4, that should help too.

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                  • #10
                    ShadowX
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 622

                    In your white bracket, the side screw hole is too far back. There is very little wood material for the screw to provide a good solid anchor point. Any impact in the front would be acting as a lever on that pivot point and cause the mount to rotate over the wood. You need to add a screw in the front of the bracket behind the AR500 plate to minimize any rotational torque. The orange mounting plate has a front screw hole. If your plate does not have a screw hole, you need to drill one into the plate. That front screw will be taking up most of the shock load so you want a bigger screw with a larger diameter. I would mark the side of the wood with pencil and take it off the mount to verify the wood reaches the bottom of the plate. Sometimes the mounts are tight and you need to hammer the bracket down to get the right depth into the wood.



                    The orange bracket is much better designed than the white one. Note it has a front hole for a screw and also the side screw is closer to the center of the bracket, not at the edge where the wood grains are too weak for the screw. Anyone who works in construction knows the wood can easily split if you drive a screw near the edges. You want it closer to the center of the 2x4 for the best strength.

                    An easy way to test you setup when you are done is to get a hammer and hit the plate a few times and see if it loosens.

                    Last edited by ShadowX; 08-05-2017, 8:25 AM.

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                    • #11
                      MarikinaMan
                      Veteran Member
                      • Nov 2015
                      • 4864

                      ^^^simple enough. I will try the front screw. Thanks.

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                      • #12
                        The Shootist
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                        • May 2010
                        • 1796

                        Tie wire maybe?
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                        • #13
                          Vlad 11
                          Veteran Member
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 2961

                          High power rifle will often make it jump upward

                          Needs to be held downward in the bracket

                          I would install a screweye an inch or two below the bracket in the 2x4

                          Use a 24' segment of 550 paracord with a loop. Thread around plate bolt thru screweye, and through loop

                          Torque down trucker hitch style .. couple half hitchs and it wont be jumping up anymore

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                          • #14
                            MarikinaMan
                            Veteran Member
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 4864

                            I got a reply from AR500 Target Solutions, the maker.

                            Hi,

                            I would try to hang them with no washer by the nut. In the pic, the washer looks like it is holding the bolt up a bit. The washers are also slippery on the mount. If that doesn't seem to help, I would run a split washer or a spring. 6.5 creedmoor has quite a wallop.

                            I hope this helps. Occasionally we have had this problem with high power rifles but the solutions above have taken care of it.

                            Thanks John
                            --

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                            • #15
                              Guns R Tools
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 1782

                              I would use heavy duty bungee to connect bolt to post (another bolt in post).
                              something like this.
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                              'Cuz big holes are easier to see.

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                              I welcome it. How else would I learn.

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