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  • caliguy93
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2016
    • 1512

    If you plan on registering, it may be wise to start preparing from now.

    I know we still have time and the regs have not been approved yet but for someone who has many firearms they plan on registering it might be a good idea to start now.

    For example, if you have 10 firearms that will be registered, you may have to take 4 pictures of each firearm totaling 40 photos. That can take an hour or two.

    Second, the data entry alone for the CFaRS system is long and tiresome.. to do that for 10 firearms may take a few hours as well.

    I'd imagine it could take a whole day straight from start to finish to do everything you think you have to do for 10 firearms. Remember, to get charged only one fee you have to submit them all in one session.

    You can start now by taking photos to break up some Of the work so you don't have to do everything in one day.

    I took photos of 9 ARs today and it took about 2.5 hours from start to finish. Most of that time was moving them back and forth from my safe and what not.

    Just a friendly tip, nothing more. If anyone has ever filled out the form to register a 80% with the DOJ they know the data entry portion is a long process as well.

    As a backdrop I typed up a small statement indicating that per the new laws I am required to submit these photos but I do not waive my 4th and 5th amendment rights. I also indicated that any other use of these photos other than registration is a violation of my 4th and 5th amendments.

    It may be premature but I like to be prepared.
    Last edited by caliguy93; 06-23-2017, 4:20 PM.
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    bronco75a
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2016
    • 659

    excellent advice

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    • #3
      ENTHUSIAST
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2008
      • 4440

      Originally posted by bronco75a
      excellent advice
      Uh no... how about a tutorial as to the application of lube to one's anal orifice and a thank you note to our overlords as a backdrop OP?

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      • #4
        caliguy93
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2016
        • 1512

        Originally posted by ENTHUSIAST
        Uh no... how about a tutorial as to the application of lube to one's anal orifice and a thank you note to our overlords as a backdrop OP?
        Oh yea tough guy? Why not just go to the DMV with that Attitude about the new gas tax or the recurring sales tax on used vehicles. See how well that works out for you. Nope, you shut up and pay it, u bend over and get your car smogged every two years because that's the law and the correct way to fight it is in the courts.

        A wise cop once told me, the side of the road is not where u want to attempt to contest your ticket.

        U comply as best you could and let the courts settle everything else. If you wanna test the limits with the DOJ by insulting the DOJ employees tasked with processing these applications that's your choice but I doubt it will end well.

        Our fight is with the legislators and the heads of the DOj, not the data processors who have no say in any of this

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        • #5
          Mayor McRifle
          Calguns Addict
          • Dec 2013
          • 7666

          Originally posted by caliguy93
          It may be premature but I like to be prepared.
          Last edited by Mayor McRifle; 09-26-2017, 9:05 PM.
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          • #6
            Condorguns
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            • Dec 2007
            • 3302

            Thank You Caliguy.
            10 guns will be a time suck, good idea to get ahead.
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            • #7
              caliguy93
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2016
              • 1512

              Originally posted by Condorguns
              Thank You Caliguy.
              10 guns will be a time suck, good idea to get ahead.
              No problem,


              Today I took photos of 9 guns. I still have my Aks and other non AR semi autos to do..

              I still need to figure out how to handle my 80% firearms. Then Get all my paperwork in order so I can accurately fill out the CFaRs system to the best of my ability, and the data entry for many firearms.. to do all the in one day would be a real time consumer.

              This was just a PSA to help split up the work so you don't get burnt out.

              Not to mention, the deadline for approval is in 3 days, and no telling how soon after the registration opens up.

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              • #8
                1snowridr
                Member
                • Jan 2017
                • 420

                9x AW's? You must be an arms dealer....? You'll be on that list for sure!

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                • #9
                  Milsurps
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 2232

                  All this BS to keep a Bullet Button ?..

                  Featureless/no registration for me.

                  YMMV

                  Good luck to all.
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                  • #10
                    caliguy93
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2016
                    • 1512

                    Originally posted by Milsurps
                    All this BS to keep a Bullet Button ?..

                    Featureless/no registration for me.

                    YMMV

                    Good luck to all.
                    I'm thinking it will start that way.. then all these backdoor laws will get thrown out. Then only those who have registered are able to take advantage as I don't think they'll open registration again when they throw out those extra regs that have nothing to do with registration.

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                    • #11
                      Bansh88
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 2500

                      Originally posted by caliguy93
                      Then only those who have registered are able to take advantage
                      Sure bro. I'm sure you'll slip through the web because you're "registered".

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                      • #12
                        Sousuke
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 3847

                        Originally posted by caliguy93
                        I'm thinking it will start that way.. then all these backdoor laws will get thrown out. Then only those who have registered are able to take advantage as I don't think they'll open registration again when they throw out those extra regs that have nothing to do with registration.
                        I agree with you generally and will be registering too...but I wouldn't register everything if I were you. I'd leave some featureless.
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                        • #13
                          caliguy93
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2016
                          • 1512

                          Originally posted by Bansh88
                          Sure bro. I'm sure you'll slip through the web because you're "registered".
                          Tell that to the people in my county that got their ccw in a 14day window between the permits ruling and when the stay came out for the appeal. Those guys "slipped through the web"
                          Last edited by caliguy93; 06-23-2017, 5:07 PM.

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                          • #14
                            UEDan
                            Member
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 164

                            Wait! Hold on! Hold on!
                            You took 2.5 hours to take 4 pictures of 9 different firearms?
                            You took over 4 minutes to take 1 photo?

                            I will NEVER give my mom crap for taking a photo on her phone again!

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                            • #15
                              caliguy93
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2016
                              • 1512

                              Originally posted by UEDan
                              Wait! Hold on! Hold on!
                              You took 2.5 hours to take 4 pictures of 9 different firearms?
                              You took over 4 minutes to take 1 photo?

                              I will NEVER give my mom crap for taking a photo on her phone again!
                              Lol from start to finish.. to move each firearm from safe to tabletop and back to safe, uploaded to my computer and organized in folders by serial number for easy uploading. Of course I wasn't in any rush or anything

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