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  • jumbopanda
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2006
    • 8382

    bullet mashed into case

    I was just cycling some rounds through my 1911 and when I ejected one of them, I found that the bullet had been pressed deeper into the case. How does this happen?
    Mo' BBs.
  • #2
    BroncoBob
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2008
    • 6019

    Was it like that when you loaded your 1911?
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    NRA MEMBER

    Originally Posted by ar15barrels
    Unscrew the lid. There is a foil seal there.
    Pull the seal off and screw the lid back on.
    Then you can squeeze the mustard and it will come out of the bottle..

    Liberals are termites eating at the foundation of our constitution.
    Michael Reagan

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    • #3
      para38super
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 614

      When you chamber a round it causes set back. Becarfull with rounds that are set back it can cause the round to be over pressure. If a round has ben chamber more than once only use for range time. Don;t chamber a round to many times.

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      • #4
        sorensen440
        Calguns Addict
        • Mar 2007
        • 8612

        reloads?
        "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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        • #5
          USN CHIEF
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Nov 2007
          • 11540

          Try squeezing the trigger before you eject the round next time.


















          Just kidding... DON'T DO THAT>
          Originally posted by tankerman
          I think most folks bubba their AR's because they watch too many action movies, play too many video games and don't understand how to socialize properly, so they fantasize about being 'action hero's'. Kind of like little girls playing dress-up.
          Originally posted by Douglas711
          Is everybody stocking up on guys now? Just curious some gun prices seem to be getting high.

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          • #6
            ohsmily
            Calguns Addict
            • Apr 2005
            • 8997

            Perhaps there is a weak crimp or maybe even no crimp on the round. How many times had this one been chambered and manually ejected? If you do it enough times, the rounds will get set back over time. Some commercial manufacturers dont have as strong of a crimp and the bullet can be relatively loose in the case.
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            • #7
              jumbopanda
              Calguns Addict
              • Aug 2006
              • 8382

              Oh ok that makes sense, it was a reload.
              Mo' BBs.

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              • #8
                The SoCal Gunner
                Veteran Member
                • May 2006
                • 3319

                Happens all the time. I see it more with Blazer Brass than WWB. Happens to self defense rounds too when trying to see if they will cycle properly.

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                • #9
                  AlexBreya
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 953

                  same thing happened to me, only it was with blazer brass

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                  • #10
                    will227457
                    Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 488

                    I would suggest not cycling live rounds at home.....but thats your business...yes set back can cause excessive pressure resulting possibly in a KB in your handgun when you fire it.....
                    Saving you from yourself one post at a time

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                    • #11
                      Jonathan Doe

                      The dummy rounds I have at my office is used a lot in all calibers. Most handgun dummy rounds are like that after a while. We just buy new ones when we need. Rifle dummy rounds are okay. It must be crimp issue.

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                      • #12
                        jumbopanda
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 8382

                        So what happens if a round does this while you're firing the gun? You would have no way of knowing.
                        Mo' BBs.

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                        • #13
                          ohsmily
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 8997

                          Originally posted by jumbopanda
                          So what happens if a round does this while you're firing the gun? You would have no way of knowing.
                          Nope, unless it blows up.
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                          • #14
                            ripcurlksm
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 3146

                            is it the feed ramp that causes setback as the round is drawn from the magazine and the barrel closes into battery?
                            Kevin

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                            • #15
                              will227457
                              Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 488

                              Originally posted by jumbopanda
                              So what happens if a round does this while you're firing the gun? You would have no way of knowing.
                              exactly, rare in factory ammo, but setback can occur in the magazine of a heavily recoiling handgun or rifle....heck I've seen it happen in a .223 styer scout......I've seen factory ammo were the box was dropped, over half the rounds were setback....


                              as far as knowing, if you reload crimp to factory specs and test....I just bench test my ammo by pushing the cartrige on the bench looking for setback.....and measuring with calipers to double check OL. to much crimp and you will have the same issue to much pressure and your gun could KB....

                              if you only use factory ammo, I wouldn't think about it to much just don't cycle the live rounds a lot......
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