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So how much do you all find the certified list of safe and "unsafe" guns to be affecting you? Generally I still find good deals on guns that are not on the list and have yet to pay much of a premium for guns not on the list that I have found at delear consignment cases.
I think many delears have not caught on to this or just don't care and blue book everything so keep the faith! Of course certain guns will command premiums like that 32acp Kel Tec and that one example of a transferable mac 10 clone.
Also some guns just aren't rare or desireable enough to be affected by this CA thing. I saw for example a FIE "Best" 25acp which is just a repackaged Astra cub or Colt junior for $125 recently. Nice gun and all but after all, it is not a Beretta or Colt. Not as common as a standard FIE titan but I doubt anyone would pay above what this gun books at, around $125 just becaus it is not allowed to be imported in to CA.
Also I hear you Northern CA fellows are paying very high prices for things like certain S&W models and such, is the stories of S&W 29-2's at 8-9 hundreed really true?
My dad just this weekend picked up at a shop a S&W mod 18 4" 22lr revolver, 97-98% revolver or $250, a great price even for the free states.
So be honest, how many of you have paid CA prices for guns that are not approved and how many of you have seen the prices not be affected much by it?
Some examples of guns that are not exactly top of the line but that my father or I have bought since the list came in to effect at cheap prices.
NIB Maadi Helwan 9x19 with two mags for $150
Russian commercial Makarov for $100
Taurus mod 669 for $129
Taurus model 82's w/o lock from 80-120 dollars or so.
NIB older Charter Arms pathfinder 22lr 3" at $150, more guns but you get the idea.
Higher quality guns that did not have a CA premium added even though they are not approved.
S&W 422 4 1/2" 22lr auto, 98% at $179
S&W model 10s' from 90-150 dollars.
S&W model 12 2" 38 alloy framed K frame near new for $300,about right.
S&W 940 9mm revolver 2" stainless at $369, not too bad even in the free states.
Ruger Speed six 9m revolver near NIB at $250
Guns that had a CA premium on them included a Ruger Security six 2 3/4" 357mag SS at $325 but these guns have been rising in price nationally as well.
Worst instance was my dad paid $175 each for one S&W model 10 pencil barrel 38spl and another bull barrel. Both had been refinished somewhat poorly but we had wanted some model 10's in the collection and we did not come in to some cheaper CA available ones until a later date.
Recently saw a Star BKM 9mm at $200, not too bad but the free states can order the steel framed ones at less than $150 all day long.
Saw a Colt Woodsman with no mag but good shape and original box at $350, I'm sure even in a free state it would have been snapped up in an instant.
So like I mentioned, keep the faith and keep searching, there is bargains and fair prices if you look. Also think about it, California is a big state with a huge population, I bet that there is a huge amount of unapproved guns out there that just have to come out of the woodwork. Lets say like S&W model 27 when they were in production, I'm sure a large amount of them were sold here in CA due to the sheer size of our state and many still remain here except the few that left from people moving or inheriting guns.
I think many delears have not caught on to this or just don't care and blue book everything so keep the faith! Of course certain guns will command premiums like that 32acp Kel Tec and that one example of a transferable mac 10 clone.
Also some guns just aren't rare or desireable enough to be affected by this CA thing. I saw for example a FIE "Best" 25acp which is just a repackaged Astra cub or Colt junior for $125 recently. Nice gun and all but after all, it is not a Beretta or Colt. Not as common as a standard FIE titan but I doubt anyone would pay above what this gun books at, around $125 just becaus it is not allowed to be imported in to CA.
Also I hear you Northern CA fellows are paying very high prices for things like certain S&W models and such, is the stories of S&W 29-2's at 8-9 hundreed really true?
My dad just this weekend picked up at a shop a S&W mod 18 4" 22lr revolver, 97-98% revolver or $250, a great price even for the free states.
So be honest, how many of you have paid CA prices for guns that are not approved and how many of you have seen the prices not be affected much by it?
Some examples of guns that are not exactly top of the line but that my father or I have bought since the list came in to effect at cheap prices.
NIB Maadi Helwan 9x19 with two mags for $150
Russian commercial Makarov for $100
Taurus mod 669 for $129
Taurus model 82's w/o lock from 80-120 dollars or so.
NIB older Charter Arms pathfinder 22lr 3" at $150, more guns but you get the idea.
Higher quality guns that did not have a CA premium added even though they are not approved.
S&W 422 4 1/2" 22lr auto, 98% at $179
S&W model 10s' from 90-150 dollars.
S&W model 12 2" 38 alloy framed K frame near new for $300,about right.
S&W 940 9mm revolver 2" stainless at $369, not too bad even in the free states.
Ruger Speed six 9m revolver near NIB at $250
Guns that had a CA premium on them included a Ruger Security six 2 3/4" 357mag SS at $325 but these guns have been rising in price nationally as well.
Worst instance was my dad paid $175 each for one S&W model 10 pencil barrel 38spl and another bull barrel. Both had been refinished somewhat poorly but we had wanted some model 10's in the collection and we did not come in to some cheaper CA available ones until a later date.
Recently saw a Star BKM 9mm at $200, not too bad but the free states can order the steel framed ones at less than $150 all day long.
Saw a Colt Woodsman with no mag but good shape and original box at $350, I'm sure even in a free state it would have been snapped up in an instant.
So like I mentioned, keep the faith and keep searching, there is bargains and fair prices if you look. Also think about it, California is a big state with a huge population, I bet that there is a huge amount of unapproved guns out there that just have to come out of the woodwork. Lets say like S&W model 27 when they were in production, I'm sure a large amount of them were sold here in CA due to the sheer size of our state and many still remain here except the few that left from people moving or inheriting guns.
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