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  • Tommy Gun
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 806

    Bought M&P 15 CA Compliant

    Before 2017 I DROS'd and was in possession of a M&P 15 and to make it compliant for 2017 the way I wanted to own it, I converted it to featureless.

    My question is that starting 2018 records will show that it had a BB and that I have not registered it. Do I have anything to worry about in 2018? Will I have to prove it has been legally converted? Or am I worried for nothing?
  • #2
    bronco75a
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2016
    • 659

    You either have to register it (when they finally get it squared away on their web site) as an assault weapon or make it featureless.

    You went the featureless route.

    Featureless does not require you to report it or prove it to the state that it's featureless.

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    • #3
      numpty
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Jul 2012
      • 2141

      This is going to be interesting. Wouldn't they just need to compare dros records with registration records? A simple computer comparison would give them a whole slew of names and addresses with "perceived" inconsistencies/conflicts to "visit".
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      • #4
        JDay
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2008
        • 19393

        Originally posted by numpty
        This is going to be interesting. Wouldn't they just need to compare dros records with registration records? A simple computer comparison would give them a whole slew of names and addresses with "perceived" inconsistencies/conflicts to "visit".
        I guarantee you that DOJ will do exactly that for every "AW" that there is a DROS registration for and doesn't get registered as an "AW".
        Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

        The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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        • #5
          sarbiker
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2014
          • 750

          Originally posted by JDay
          I guarantee you that DOJ will do exactly that for every "AW" that there is a DROS registration for and doesn't get registered as an "AW".
          Do you think they will go down the list alphabetically or start with the oldest DROS records and work up?
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          • #6
            Hairball
            Senior Member
            • May 2013
            • 799

            Originally posted by Tommy Gun
            am I worried for nothing?
            Yes

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            • #7
              meccjoo
              Member
              • Feb 2016
              • 245

              Originally posted by JDay
              I guarantee you that DOJ will do exactly that for every "AW" that there is a DROS registration for and doesn't get registered as an "AW".

              Finally someone with some answers

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              • #8
                BumBum
                Senior Member
                CGN Contributor
                • Jan 2013
                • 1607

                The DROS form doesn't indicate what kind of "compliance device" a firearm has or doesn't have. You could have easily purchased a featureless firearm pre-2017.
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                • #9
                  OlderThanDirt
                  FUBAR
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 5865

                  Originally posted by JDay
                  I guarantee you that DOJ will do exactly that for every "AW" that there is a DROS registration for and doesn't get registered as an "AW".
                  Most likely to be followed by a threatening form letter.
                  We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying. ~ Solzhenitsyn
                  Thermidorian Reaction . . Prepare for it.

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                  • #10
                    slugbuster
                    Member
                    • Apr 2017
                    • 198

                    Nope. Not registering.

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                    • #11
                      Wordupmybrotha
                      From anotha motha
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 6965

                      Originally posted by Tommy Gun
                      Before 2017 I DROS'd and was in possession of a M&P 15 and to make it compliant for 2017 the way I wanted to own it, I converted it to featureless.

                      My question is that starting 2018 records will show that it had a BB and that I have not registered it. Do I have anything to worry about in 2018? Will I have to prove it has been legally converted? Or am I worried for nothing?
                      The premise of your question is confusing. In your hypothetical question, how did you acquire the AR in 2018? Whether PPT or from a store, it would go through an FFL, who would most likely make sure it was featureless, because the AR with evil features can't be sold then.

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                      • #12
                        Nor*Cal
                        Veteran Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 2687

                        Originally posted by Tommy Gun
                        Or am I worried for nothing?
                        Yes, you are worried for nothing. Enjoy your featureless riffle and ignore the few in this thread that think there will be some sort of list.

                        Originally posted by wordupmybrotha
                        The premise of your question is confusing. In your hypothetical question, how did you acquire the AR in 2018? Whether PPT or from a store, it would go through an FFL, who would most likely make sure it was featureless, because the AR with evil features can't be sold then.
                        Read the first sentence of OP's post.

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                        • #13
                          Wordupmybrotha
                          From anotha motha
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 6965

                          Originally posted by Nor*Cal
                          Yes, you are worried for nothing. Enjoy your featureless riffle and ignore the few in this thread that think there will be some sort of list.

                          Read the first sentence of OP's post.
                          I concur. OP, you're worried for nothing.

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                          • #14
                            Tommy Gun
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 806

                            I was confident when I converted it in 2016 that I was GTG. But now it was just something that worried me because with all the hoops we have to jump through the question of ar15 origination tied to serial numbers (I think), there might have been an issue.

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                            • #15
                              OlderThanDirt
                              FUBAR
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 5865

                              It's nice to see that some manufacturers and retailers are starting to include statements like this for muzzle brakes:

                              This product does not reduce the flash signature of the firearm.
                              We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying. ~ Solzhenitsyn
                              Thermidorian Reaction . . Prepare for it.

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