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  • slugbuster
    Member
    • Apr 2017
    • 198

    stamped or milled

    Looking at picking up a new AK. I have stamped AK's but no milled. Any thoughts?
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    omega
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2005
    • 3115

    the modern stamped ones, especially the models with a 1.5mm thick receiver are the best for durability, function, weight.

    there really is not much benefit for the milled AK except for nostalgia, they dont shoot any better than a stamped model.

    modern combat rifles like the German HK G3 & UZI have stamped receivers and they are very durable

    having a milled receiver isnt really necessary on an AK
    Last edited by omega; 05-21-2017, 7:27 AM.

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    • #3
      Carcassonne
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 4897

      I think the original AK 47 had a milled receiver. They switched to stamped steel because it was cheaper to manufacture. A milled receiver will be a little stronger, but I doubt it will make a difference in accuracy or precision.




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        highpower
        Calguns Addict
        • May 2012
        • 5340

        I have several of both. The milled rifles are just smoother shooting. In fact, the only stamped AK I have that feels as slick as the milled guns is my M76 Valmet. That is not to say that a stamped AK won't get the job done, but the milled rifles also tend to be a bit more durable.

        Originally posted by omega
        the modern stamped ones, especially the models with a 1.5mm thick receiver are the best for durability, function, weight.

        The fellows at Battlefield Las Vegas have stated that the longest lasting AK's they have are the Chinese and Russian milled guns. While I doubt that anyone would ever be able to put enough rounds down range through a stamped AK to wear it out, the empirical evidence shows that milled are tougher.

        If I was to just have one AK that is currently available on the market, I would get a SAM7.
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        • #5
          Guns and guitars
          Banned
          • Mar 2012
          • 1548

          Originally posted by highpower
          I have several of both. The milled rifles are just smoother shooting. In fact, the only stamped AK I have that feels as slick as the milled guns is my M76 Valmet. That is not to say that a stamped AK won't get the job done, but the milled rifles also tend to be a bit more durable.




          The fellows at Battlefield Las Vegas have stated that the longest lasting AK's they have are the Chinese and Russian milled guns. While I doubt that anyone would ever be able to put enough rounds down range through a stamped AK to wear it out, the empirical evidence shows that milled are tougher.



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          I agree. I own both and the milled are far better of a weapon. And its pretty much known they will outlast a stamped.
          But Ive also got a 2 different Sar Cigur rifles I purchased in 1999 that have been shot to the point they are smooth bore and they don't have any issues for being stamped.

          I would say get a milled if its going to be something you want to keep for life.

          Also remember that the new VEPR AK-11 series rifles are kind of a in-between since they are stamped but being RPK receivers they are produced better with thicker metals.

          Coming from a guy who owns 8 different AK variants I can definitely say the VEPR's are one of the best bets out there these days.

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          • #6
            cantdance
            Senior Member
            • May 2014
            • 919

            I looked into an AK a while back and remember one quote I read somewhere, "A milled receiver will last three lifetimes whereas a stamped will last only two."

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            • #7
              Marquand
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 1482

              It so doesn't matter.
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              • #8
                send it_hit
                Senior Member
                • May 2010
                • 2454

                Want a pretty pretty safe queen? Go milled. Want a work horse beater? Go stamped.

                IMO, split the difference and go 1.5mm stamped, O-PAP if you can find it, settle for N-PAP.

                Hard to go wrong with any renown AK though. Good luck!

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                • #9
                  robledo
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 978

                  Whichever looks cooler to you. I prefer stamped. No reason to go heavier than a stamped reciever, especially for my realistic uses.

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                  • #10
                    drdanno84
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                    CGN Contributor
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 1418

                    I have both, a KBI Hungarian SA85M stamped and a Arsenal Bulgarian SLR-95 milled. They both shoot the same, the Arsenal feels more durable and draws more attention!748.jpg

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                    • #11
                      The Gleam
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                      • Feb 2011
                      • 13593

                      Originally posted by send it_hit
                      Want a pretty pretty safe queen? Go milled. Want a work horse beater? Go stamped.
                      Why would this be the case? Maybe that's how you see it due to valuation due to your perspective or relative stance, but either would serve as a "work horse".

                      I have milleds as Bulgarian and from Arsenal, and stampeds from WASRs, VEPR, to an FEG Hungarian; none are no more work-horse territory than the other.
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                      • #12
                        send it_hit
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 2454

                        Originally posted by The Gleam
                        Why would this be the case? Maybe that's how you see it due to valuation due to your perspective or relative stance, but either would serve as a "work horse".

                        I have milleds as Bulgarian and from Arsenal, and stampeds from WASRs, VEPR, to an FEG Hungarian; none are no more work-horse territory than the other.
                        No, you're right, either would work as a work-horse. Definitely. And that's exactly what I meant, based on value/cost If you have the money to turn an Arsenal into a workhorse over an N-PAP that does the same thing, by all means.

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                        • #13
                          HibikiR
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2014
                          • 2418

                          I think there's more tacticool aftermarket support for stamped, but then again I've never explored that in depth since I'm one of those guys that sticks with the whole Cold War commie issued look.

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                          • #14
                            Dan_Eastvale
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                            • Apr 2013
                            • 10829

                            AK 47 was milled
                            AKM (modernized) stamped..
                            All current military production use stamped.
                            My old Norinco AK (56s-1) is 1.5 mm stamped...

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                              meno377
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                              • Jul 2013
                              • 4911

                              Originally posted by Dan_Eastvale
                              AK 47 was milled
                              AKM (modernized) stamped..
                              All current military production use stamped.
                              My old Norinco AK (56s-1) is 1.5 mm stamped...
                              WINNER. Some early milled AK 47s would crack.
                              Last edited by meno377; 05-22-2017, 10:10 AM.
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