CHL and gun transfers

[Aggiebryan]

I am trying to figure out a way to handle my situation. I have been a CHL carrier from Texas for at least 10 years, but I moved to LA county 2 years ago and left my guns with my folks in AZ. I finally moved to Orange County and want to start working towards a CHL here. If I show that I have been here for two years, will I have a problem registering a gun here? Is there any REAL reason to get them registered? Will having a CHL outside of California help or hender me in getting my license here?

I do plan on moving back to a free state eventually, but the fact that I have been too scared to bring anything into the state has me worried about how things will be handled here.

[SonofWWIIDI]

[CouchOperator]

Good luck

[JDay]

The state changed the law a while back. You missed the deadline to import your personal firearms.

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/ab991

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[Mitch]

You seem to be asking two unrelated questions, one I don't quite understand about your Texas CHL; and one about importing firearms.

As has been mentioned, you missed the boat for importing your firearms, but not just because of California law. Your guns are in the possession of your folks in Arizona. For you to take possession of them would be an interstate transfer under a 50 year old Federal law, no matter who might hold "title" to them. If they are not statutory "assault weapons," no problem: you can ask your folks to perform an interstate intrafamilial transfer through a California FFL. No magazines greater than ten rounds.

As for your Texas CHL, I'm not sure what you are asking.

[six seven tango]

JDay and Mitch pretty much covered it, except for your registration question. Yes, there is a REAL reason to register them. You will not be able to list any handgun on your CCW (CHL) that is not registered to you. It's also the law.

Also, if you end up doing the interstate intrafamilial transfer, call around, or ask here first, as not all FFL's know how to properly do one.

[Mitch]

If the OP is in Orange County, RifleGear can do the intrafamilial interstate transfer.

The guns will automatically become registered during the transfer.

[tanks]

If the OP is in Orange County, RifleGear can do the intrafamilial interstate transfer.

The guns will automatically become registered during the transfer.

One thing. 1 in 30 applies to intrafamilial interstate transfers.

[heidad01]

Not quite sure but coming into Calif, you have someting like 60 days to register your armory or sell them. After that you are holding unregistered hand guns. I would straighten that first before you walk into any office and tell them you want a ccw. By that way, Calif does not recognize CHL or almost no license from other states except a drivers license.

[tanks]

... Your guns are in the possession of your folks in Arizona. For you to take possession of them would be an interstate transfer under a 50 year old Federal law, no matter who might hold "title" to them. If they are not statutory "assault weapons," no problem: you can ask your folks to perform an interstate intrafamilial transfer through a California FFL. No magazines greater than ten rounds....

I am confused about this. You mean to tell me every time someone leaves a firearm out of State they have to be registered if picked back up?

Example, I take a long gun out to family hunting cabin out of State and leave it in the safe there prior to CA long gun registration requirement in 2014. Now, I have to go through registering that long gun and have sent it to me instead of picking it back up?

With no paper trail one way or another how does it even work?

[Mitch]

I am confused about this. You mean to tell me every time someone leaves a firearm out of State they have to be registered if picked back up?

Yes, if you leave it with someone for more than 30 days (which is the time limit for a "loan").

Example, I take a long gun out to family hunting cabin out of State and leave it in the safe there prior to CA long gun registration requirement in 2014. Now, I have to go through registering that long gun and have sent it to me instead of picking it back up?

If you leave it in a safe and no one else has the combination, then technically the firearms have never left your possession, so you don't have to transfer them back to yourself.

But that's not what the OP did. He left them with his parents.

In fact, I would wager that while leaving your guns in a safe in another state is one of the favorite Calguns edge case situations for vigorous discussion, almost no one does it, ever.

It has been this way since the 1968 Gun Control Act.

[JDay]

Not quite sure but coming into Calif, you have someting like 60 days to register your armory or sell them. After that you are holding unregistered hand guns. I would straighten that first before you walk into any office and tell them you want a ccw. By that way, Calif does not recognize CHL or almost no license from other states except a drivers license.

Nevermind that his Texas CHL became invalid when he moved out of the state.

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[SkyHawk]

As noted, your Texas CHL became invalid when you moved out of Texas. It wouldn't help you here anyhow.

As noted, you blew it when you left those guns in AZ. In fact you performed a defacto transfer to your parents. Any transfer of the guns back to you must go through FFL.

Your parents can transfer the guns back to you, but only one handgun per 30 days and all guns must go through a CA FFL.

If you really plan to move out of state again and you will only be here a couple/few years - just have mom or dad send you one of your handguns (with no mags over 10rds) - THROUGH A CA FFL, or buy one here.

[titan2]

I am trying to figure out a way to handle my situation. I have been a CHL carrier from Texas for at least 10 years, but I moved to LA county 2 years ago and left my guns with my folks in AZ. I finally moved to Orange County and want to start working towards a CHL here. If I show that I have been here for two years, will I have a problem registering a gun here? Is there any REAL reason to get them registered? Will having a CHL outside of California help or hender me in getting my license here?

I do plan on moving back to a free state eventually, but the fact that I have been too scared to bring anything into the state has me worried about how things will be handled here.

How long do you plan on living in this fair state???

Just leave your guns with you parents.....buy your 'rostered' gun here, get your CCW. When you finally leave for a free state....leave your rostered gun here and move back to Arizona where your parents are....establish residency and pick your guns back up. After that, do as you wish!!!