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  • HawkMan
    Senior Member
    • May 2016
    • 549

    Buying guns in other states

    I know it's illegal to go to another state just to buy a gun and come back, such as going to Arizona, getting an ID, getting a gun, and just coming back to Cali.

    But I'm confused when it comes to different situations.

    If you move to another state, are you allowed to buy a gun there immediately once you have a Drivers License / ID or do you have to wait a certain amount of time / do something to establish residency?

    The reason I ask is because if you move to another state and buy a gun, are there any legal issues if you don't like the state and want to move back?
  • #2
    Librarian
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    • Oct 2005
    • 44646

    Details vary with the states, so there's no general rule, beyond eventually a non-prohibited person should be able to buy a gun in most states.
    are there any legal issues if you don't like the state and want to move back?
    Seems like that would be based on the facts of the individual situation.
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    • #3
      Quiet
      retired Goon
      • Mar 2007
      • 30241

      Originally posted by HawkMan
      If you move to another state, are you allowed to buy a gun there immediately once you have a Drivers License / ID or do you have to wait a certain amount of time / do something to establish residency?
      It depends on the State.

      Some States have laws requiring a minimum amount of time (3-6 months) in order to be considered a resident and some States consider you a resident as soon as you surrender your current State DL & obtain their State DL.
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      • #4
        Kwikvette
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2015
        • 3704

        I remember when I moved to IL, you had to prove you lived in the state as well as surrendering any DL/ID for any other state prior. They also have you sign a form stating you no longer claim to be a resident of any other state.

        Choose wisely wherever you decide to move; even as an LEO in Cook County, it was tough getting by with the stupid (gun) laws that surround it.
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        • #5
          JVtater
          Junior Member
          • Feb 2017
          • 80

          Depends on the type of gun your buying

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          • #6
            -hanko
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            • Jul 2002
            • 14174

            Originally posted by Quiet
            It depends on the State.

            Some States have laws requiring a minimum amount of time (3-6 months) in order to be considered a resident and some States consider you a resident as soon as you surrender your current State DL & obtain their State DL.
            I've lived in California, Texas, and Idaho. All 3, and maybe there are others, required you to show proof of residency at the time you apply.
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            • #7
              HawkMan
              Senior Member
              • May 2016
              • 549

              Originally posted by Librarian
              Details vary with the states, so there's no general rule, beyond eventually a non-prohibited person should be able to buy a gun in most states.

              Seems like that would be based on the facts of the individual situation.
              Originally posted by Quiet
              It depends on the State.

              Some States have laws requiring a minimum amount of time (3-6 months) in order to be considered a resident and some States consider you a resident as soon as you surrender your current State DL & obtain their State DL.
              Originally posted by Kwikvette
              I remember when I moved to IL, you had to prove you lived in the state as well as surrendering any DL/ID for any other state prior. They also have you sign a form stating you no longer claim to be a resident of any other state.

              Choose wisely wherever you decide to move; even as an LEO in Cook County, it was tough getting by with the stupid (gun) laws that surround it.
              Originally posted by JVtater
              Depends on the type of gun your buying

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              Makes sense possibly having to sign a form stating you're no longer a resident of another state. Really shouldn't be an issue.

              Here is the situation I'm specifically thinking about:
              I'd like to move to Arizona, rent a place, and surrender my California Drivers License and get an Arizona Drivers License. (Do I have to live there a certain amount of time to get an Arizona DL?)
              If I bought a gun which was not on the California handgun roster, would there be any issue bringing it back with me to California if I decided that the heat in that state wasn't for me?

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              • #8
                SkyHawk
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Sep 2012
                • 23510

                Originally posted by HawkMan
                Makes sense possibly having to sign a form stating you're no longer a resident of another state. Really shouldn't be an issue.

                Here is the situation I'm specifically thinking about:
                I'd like to move to Arizona, rent a place, and surrender my California Drivers License and get an Arizona Drivers License. (Do I have to live there a certain amount of time to get an Arizona DL?)
                If I bought a gun which was not on the California handgun roster, would there be any issue bringing it back with me to California if I decided that the heat in that state wasn't for me?
                If you don't completely cut ties with Ca, you could be in trouble. There is a lot more to residency than a drivers license or ID. Plenty of people have drivers license in one state but are considered residents of another, for example military spouses.

                Residency is a subject best left to a lawyer who specializes in it. The price for getting it wrong and bringing back a pistol to Ca is a felony and loss of your 2A rights.

                And there are situations where you can make a drive to another state and bring back an off roster pistol. If you have a C&R license, you can bring back a C&R pistol. I drove to Cabelas in Reno a few weeks ago and brought back a nice Smith & Wesson model 1905 38 Special. Registered it with DOJ within 5 days. But you aren't going to bring back a Sig P320 that way, at least not for another 48 years.

                If you move to AZ and plan on returning with guns someday, you probably better cut all ties with CA. Taxes, licenses including any professional licenses, real estate etc.
                Last edited by SkyHawk; 05-11-2017, 11:25 PM.
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                • #9
                  pacrat
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • May 2014
                  • 10280

                  If you move to AZ and plan on returning with guns someday, you probably better cut all ties with CA. Taxes, licenses including any professional licenses, real estate etc.
                  In the example of real estate. You wouldn't have to sell it. But in order to CYA. You should be able to show receipts where you rented it to someone else. And claimed the income on taxes. As proof you didn't reside there during your absence from the state.

                  I don't know about now. But at one time not many years ago. If you moved to Ca. and got a job here. You had a very short window in which to get a CDL and register your vehicles here, or face stiff fines for not doing so.

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                  • #10
                    Mitch
                    Mostly Harmless
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 6574

                    Originally posted by Quiet
                    It depends on the State.

                    Some States have laws requiring a minimum amount of time (3-6 months) in order to be considered a resident and some States consider you a resident as soon as you surrender your current State DL & obtain their State DL.
                    I believe (handwaving) here in Nevada you are a resident the moment you get here and decide you want to become one. That doesn't help you if you want to buy a firearm from an FFL, but private purchases would be perfectly legal.*

                    In any case, I applied for my Nevada drivers license within a week after I got here (I showed the DMV my rental home lease). Within a month I was able to use it to buy guns from an FFL.





                    * Well, perhaps not perfectly legal; we have a new universal background check law here, but the attorney general says it conflicts with existing background check procedures and no one is being prosecuted for private transfers.
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                    • #11
                      Jimmy's
                      Veteran Member
                      • May 2016
                      • 2600

                      LOL.

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                      • #12
                        Milsurp Collector
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                        • Jan 2009
                        • 5884

                        Originally posted by HawkMan
                        Makes sense possibly having to sign a form stating you're no longer a resident of another state. Really shouldn't be an issue.

                        Here is the situation I'm specifically thinking about:
                        I'd like to move to Arizona, rent a place, and surrender my California Drivers License and get an Arizona Drivers License. (Do I have to live there a certain amount of time to get an Arizona DL?)
                        If I bought a gun which was not on the California handgun roster, would there be any issue bringing it back with me to California if I decided that the heat in that state wasn't for me?
                        Simple. Move to Arizona and bring your current guns with you. Don't buy any guns in Arizona until you are sure you want to stay there. If you don't like it there then move to a different free state, but for goodness sake don't move back to California. There are at least 35 free states other than Arizona. Why limit yourself to just California and Arizona as suitable places to live? After all of the hassles of escaping prison (California) why would you ever voluntarily put yourself back into the prison you escaped from? After you escape prison never go back.
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                        • #13
                          Ford8N
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 6129

                          Originally posted by pacrat
                          In the example of real estate. You wouldn't have to sell it. But in order to CYA. You should be able to show receipts where you rented it to someone else. And claimed the income on taxes. As proof you didn't reside there during your absence from the state.

                          I don't know about now. But at one time not many years ago. If you moved to Ca. and got a job here. You had a very short window in which to get a CDL and register your vehicles here, or face stiff fines for not doing so.
                          Yup

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                          • #14
                            spfabrication
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 1045

                            My second day in Idaho I transferred my truck title , got my plates, and temp DL. this took about an hour and cost less than 120$. My DL showed up a week later. My form 1 and 4 will take slightly longer.
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                            • #15
                              JVtater
                              Junior Member
                              • Feb 2017
                              • 80

                              Originally posted by spfabrication
                              My second day in Idaho I transferred my truck title , got my plates, and temp DL. this took about an hour and cost less than 120$. My DL showed up a week later. My form 1 and 4 will take slightly longer.
                              What part of Idaho ?

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