Bullet Button question

[heidad01]

Can you ppt an AR type rifle that has a bullet button on it or does the bullet button have to be replaced with a normal mag release because of the 2017 change?
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I know they have to be featureless or register by the end of the year, but can you, or better yet, would the FFLs do the ppt for the rest of this year or make you change it before transfer??

[UclaPeon44]

Feature less only

[Librarian]

A 'bullet button' is not sufficient to keep a rifle from being an 'assault weapon', because law for 2017 redefines the magazine requirements.

Illegal to transfer 'assault weapons' inside CA.

[Wordupmybrotha]

I believe bullet button is now irrelevant in considering whether a rifle is an assault weapon or not.

It's not part of the evil feature considerations, which are flash hider, pistol grip and adjustable stock.

[heidad01]

I believe bullet button is now irrelevant in considering whether a rifle is an assault weapon or not.

It's not part of the evil feature considerations, which are flash hider, pistol grip and adjustable stock.

So, is it correct to say that unless a semi auto rifle is featureless, you can not transfer/ PPT it? In other words, can I sell you my AR through PPT as it was legal in 2016 or do Ihave to convert to featureless first? Sorry, if I am not getting it from the posted answers.

[HibikiR]

That's my understanding. We have some FFL's in the forum that won't transfer AR-15s with the Patriot Mag Release until their lawyers green light it. For now it's featureless or nothing.

[Wordupmybrotha]

So, is it correct to say that unless a semi auto rifle is featureless, you can not transfer/ PPT it? In other words, can I sell you my AR through PPT as it was legal in 2016 or do Ihave to convert to featureless first? Sorry, if I am not getting it from the posted answers.

Correct. Have to convert to featureless first.

[Quiet]

So, is it correct to say that unless a semi auto rifle is featureless, you can not transfer/ PPT it? In other words, can I sell you my AR through PPT as it was legal in 2016 or do Ihave to convert to featureless first? Sorry, if I am not getting it from the posted answers.

Since semi-auto centerfire rifles with restricted features (pistol grip, folding/extending stock, etc) and "bullet button" style maglocks are now considered assault weapons [PC 30515(b)], starting 01-01-2017, it is illegal (felony) to advertise them for sale and to transfer them while in CA. [PC 30600(a)]

While in CA, in order to legally advertise them for sale and to transfer them; the semi-auto centerfire rifle needs to be configured as a featureless semi-auto centerfire rifle or as a semi-auto centerfire rifle with a fixed 10 round magazine or as a manually operated rifle or as disassembled parts.

[heidad01]

Understood. Thank you mybrotha.

edit: Thanks Quiet for the details.

[HunterMan2014]

So... If one converts his typical AR15 to a 10 round fixed center fire rifle he could PPT the rifle? Second, isn't that what the Bullet Button 2.0 and ARMaglock devices Do? If the devices comply with current laws why are FFL's still refusing to conduct PPT's, isn't it mandated by the state that they have to do it?

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[mannyp]

Remove the bullet button and you are ok. Raddlock that are set as mag release are also ok.


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[ProtectThe2nd]

Remove the bullet button and you are ok. Raddlock that are set as mag release are also ok.

Ugh...whut? Huh?

[Euphoria526]

Remove the bullet button and you are ok. Raddlock that are set as mag release are also ok.


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But what's the point.

It's just that a bullet button NO LONGER IS ACCEPTED AS A MAG LOCKING DEVICE by itself.
The magazine needs to be more securely locked in the magwell a bullet button makes mag changes "too fast" per Capitol Hill :/

[GM4spd]

That's my understanding. We have some FFL's in the forum that won't transfer AR-15s with the Patriot Mag Release until their lawyers green light it. For now it's featureless or nothing.

I can understand that.

[nedro]

So, what people are saying in this thread is that everyone should now remove their bullet buttons because they make no difference either way.
Did I get that right? Librarian?