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  • ham66
    Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 172

    Dsa/ upper Fal Austrian stg58, wts maybe

    I have two parts kits from 1986 non-matching serial numbers but they're all original Austrian parts are in excellent condition, original Austrian barrels, the upper receiver which I purchased from Dsa Arms back in 2014 and finally assembled them head spaced with go and no go gauges and tapered locking shoulder gauge, and I'm curious what the value of these rifles? I duracoated all the parts before assembly, they are properly headspaced and shoot great. I call them the twins�� any help would greatly be appreciated I was offered $1000 for one but I don't think that's a fair price. Thank you for any help. Just checked serial number 42*** and 108*** on lower receivers
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    -hanko
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jul 2002
    • 14174

    I'd say $1K is a bit light.

    Best place to check current asking prices is the Marketplace on the FAL Files.

    You may also see a few on arf in the Equipment Exchange.

    hth
    True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

    Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

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    • #3
      Coolguy101
      Senior Member
      • May 2011
      • 655

      value is relative. I look at those and think about all the work I would have to do stripping off all that duracoat and what a pain it would be - it would affect how much I wanted to pay for it.

      Someone else may think they are fantastic, and willing to pay even more because they like the paint jobs.

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      • #4
        bbguns44
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2006
        • 1182

        There were FALs going for $750 & $800 recently. I'm not saying yours may not
        be worth more. An Imbel Kit + a Coonan receiver would be $800 right now.

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        • #5
          ham66
          Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 172

          Fal

          Originally posted by Coolguy101
          value is relative. I look at those and think about all the work I would have to do stripping off all that duracoat and what a pain it would be - it would affect how much I wanted to pay for it.

          Someone else may think they are fantastic, and willing to pay even more because they like the paint jobs.
          So the original Parkerized finished better? I thought It left marks from handling it so I wanted to protect original of metal better

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          • #6
            ham66
            Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 172

            Fal

            Originally posted by bbguns44
            There were FALs going for $750 & $800 recently. I'm not saying yours may not
            be worth more. An Imbel Kit + a Coonan receiver would be $800 right now.
            I thought the Dsa Arms upper receivers were the best in Cali but I don't know, and I haven't seen any kits for quite a few years, are you aware of any places still sewing kits with the original 21 inch barrels ? Thanks for your help

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            • #7
              Archon_g24
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2014
              • 546

              The LMT made DSA receivers are top notch but are quite different than the recent ones. The Imbel "gear logo" type 3's from 10+ years ago are really nice too.
              NRA, CRPA, and RWVA member.

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              • #8
                gibbet
                Member
                • Mar 2005
                • 241

                I would swap the furniture. One all black, the other tan. Then i would sell them individually and list them for $1300 each on gunjoker. Make sure to indicate if the receiver prefix is ds or dsa.

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                • #9
                  ham66
                  Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 172

                  Thank you all for the help I appreciate it

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                  • #10
                    Mr. Helio
                    Member
                    • Oct 2016
                    • 221

                    If you're upper is marked DS I think it is worth more. As it could be an early production. I'd do some research on fal files. Hanko an a few other guys on here really know Thier stuff. They were able to help me identify my fal. Good luck

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                    • #11
                      SloChicken
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 4533

                      Originally posted by bbguns44
                      There were FALs going for $750 & $800 recently. I'm not saying yours may not
                      be worth more. An Imbel Kit + a Coonan receiver would be $800 right now.
                      What?
                      Never.

                      As for an Austrian/Steyr kit on a DSA receiver, i think 1500 is a bare minimum.
                      Further, if your DSA receiver is a DSxxxx serial and not a DSAxxxx serial it is actually a LMT manufactured receiver and is one of the most coveted.

                      Steel lowers as well are usu earlier and probably also Steyr and once again worth more.

                      As for $800 stg58s,
                      Not a chance. I see Enterprise and Hesse sell for more.

                      Imbel and Coonan are a level above that, and the LMT/DSAs are above those.
                      sigpic

                      Originally Posted by Cali-Shooter
                      To me, it was a fist-fight, except that I did not counter-attack.

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                      • #12
                        SloChicken
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 4533

                        Originally posted by Archon_g24
                        The LMT made DSA receivers are top notch but are quite different than the recent ones. The Imbel "gear logo" type 3's from 10+ years ago are really nice too.
                        I am perfectly happy with my new DSA and is as well machined and there is no difference in function. Both are forged receivers as well.

                        The new DSA Voyagers are cast, but then again, so are Coonan and they are well regarded.

                        One new, one old - can you tell which is which?

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                        sigpic

                        Originally Posted by Cali-Shooter
                        To me, it was a fist-fight, except that I did not counter-attack.

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                        • #13
                          -hanko
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 14174

                          Originally posted by ham66
                          So the original Parkerized finished better? I thought It left marks from handling it so I wanted to protect original of metal better
                          You did, but a lot of prospective buyers want a btdt battle rifle look. Parkerizing is original finish for some FAL's. Handling a parked finish does not leave marks.


                          Originally posted by ham66
                          I thought the Dsa Arms upper receivers were the best in Cali but I don't know, and I haven't seen any kits for quite a few years, are you aware of any places still sewing kits with the original 21 inch barrels ? Thanks for your help
                          Arizona Response Systems may be able to hook you up with a kit. If I were looking for a kit, I'd be on the FAL Files.


                          Originally posted by bbguns44
                          There were FALs going for $750 & $800 recently. I'm not saying yours may not
                          be worth more. An Imbel Kit + a Coonan receiver would be $800 right now.
                          Unassembled, maybe. Assembled, where?


                          Originally posted by SloChicken
                          What?
                          Never.

                          As for an Austrian/Steyr kit on a DSA receiver, i think 1500 is a bare minimum.
                          Further, if your DSA receiver is a DSxxxx serial and not a DSAxxxx serial it is actually a LMT manufactured receiver and is one of the most coveted.

                          Steel lowers as well are usu earlier and probably also Steyr and once again worth more.

                          As for $800 stg58s,
                          Not a chance. I see Enterprise and Hesse sell for more.

                          Imbel and Coonan are a level above that, and the LMT/DSAs are above those.
                          bbguns44 was talking about a kit, not a finished weapon. Agree with $1500-ish for a DSA/LMT receiver, and a matching-numbers STG kit, assembled.

                          If you drop more than that on an Enterprise or Hesse / Blackthorne / whatever they call themselves this week, you deserve what you get. Century got tired of Hesse's crap and switched to Imbel, which imo is as good as it gets.

                          I'd still say there's nothing wrong with a well-worn SA kit in original baby puke paint either.
                          True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

                          Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

                          Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

                          A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran

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                          • #14
                            ham66
                            Member
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 172

                            Looks like I'm going to remove all the duraccoat Finnish�� Thanks again for all your feedback I appreciate it

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