The reason why we can't have CCW

[baekacaek]

All thanks to hotheaded idiots who cant responsibly use their firearms.

http://www.guns.com/2017/04/11/study-road-rage-incidents-involving-guns-are-on-the-rise/

road rage incidents in which someone brandished or fired a gun have risen steadily over the last three years, from 247 in 2014 to 620 in 2016.

Gun control groups argue that having more concealed carry holders will result in more incidents like this. And thanks to people who can't take a chill pill, it looks like that argument is getting harder to fight.

[GlockN'Roll]

All thanks to hotheaded idiots who cant responsibly use their firearms.

http://www.guns.com/2017/04/11/study-road-rage-incidents-involving-guns-are-on-the-rise/

Gun control groups argue that having more concealed carry holders will result in more incidents like this. And thanks to people who can't take a chill pill, it looks like that argument is getting harder to fight.

With no citation as to the actual number of CCW holders involved, cited or charged, if any, this is just anti-gun hit piece...

[Sapperforward]

OP you need to learn how to consume propaganda.

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[flyer898]

There is no mention that any firearms were used unlawfully or by a person with a CCW. It is entirely a straw man argument. For that matter the article puts ou numbers but there is nothing by which the reliability of the data can be judged. Another example of pandering to the absence of critical thinking and confirmation bias commonly found in progressives.

[Gryff]

And yet we had the onerous CCW laws before the road rage numbers increased. Not seeing the correlation.

[Divernhunter]

No it is all the libtards and politicians that are mostly from the area you are in and southern calif. Then people come along and believe the crap they hand out. Could you be one of ones who believe their crap by chance? Or did you just mistake the info they sent out?

[oddball]

The reason why we can't have CCW

Only one valid reason.

Leftists. Liberal. Progressives.
Democrats.

There is no other reason whatsoever. To believe otherwise is pure fantasy.

[flyer898]

There is no valid reason to deny CCW to competent law abiding citizens!

[ElvenSoul]

Gun ownership has grown 7x to 8x.

[dwalker]

The Constitution is everyones CCW

[Milsurp Collector]

The original story came from TheTrace.org. Hmm, I wonder if they have a bias:

The Trace is an independent, nonprofit news organization dedicated to expanding coverage of guns in the United States. We believe that are coupled with a second problem: a shortage of information about the issue at large.

The Trace is an independent, nonprofit journalism startup dedicated to shining a light on .

Why We Started This Site

Every year in our country, a firearm is used in nearly 500,000 crimes, resulting in the deaths and injuries of more than 110,000 people. Shootings devastate families and communities and drain billions of dollars from local, state, and federal governments. Meanwhile, the problem of gun violence has been compounded by another: the shortage of knowledge about the issue.

https://www.thetrace.org/about-the-trace/

The a look at the other stories on that site. Nothing but anti-gun propaganda.

[CinnamonBear723]

I too agree that this basic statistic without being measured against the number of CCWs used in these crimes is absolutely worthless. In my experience CCW holders are some of the most legally conservative people regarding the use and carry of their weapons.

[SWalt]

The original story came from TheTrace.org. Hmm, I wonder if they have a bias:



The a look at the other stories on that site. Nothing but anti-gun propaganda.

Looks like nothing but exaggeration.

[Geologist]

There is no valid reason to deny CCW to competent law abiding citizens!

I am a liberal/Democrat/Progressive and I absolutely agree with this statement.

[docflash]

I too agree that this basic statistic without being measured against the number of CCWs used in these crimes is absolutely worthless. In my experience CCW holders are some of the most legally conservative people regarding the use and carry of their weapons.

Oh, but the concerned folks over at http://concealedcarrykillers.org/ beg to differ. It seems like there is also an epidemic of CCW holders out on a killing spree. They give those hard statistics that are very damning:

"Currently, Concealed Carry Killers documents 729 incidents in 40 states and the District of Columbia resulting in 928 deaths. In 83 percent of the incidents (604) the concealed carry killer committed suicide (296), has already been convicted (235), perpetrated a murder-suicide (56), or was killed in the incident (17). Of the 95 cases still pending, the vast majority (81) of concealed carry killers have been charged with criminal homicide, four were deemed incompetent to stand trial, and 10 incidents are still under investigation. An additional 30 incidents were fatal unintentional shootings involving the gun of the concealed handgun permit holder. Seventeen of the victims were law enforcement officers. Thirty-one of the incidents were mass shootings, resulting in the deaths of 147 victims."

Damning until you find that there are over 14 million people in the U.S. who can carry concealed. So that's 729/14,000,000 x 100 = 0.005%. So it turns out that a fraction of a fraction of concealed carry holders turn out to be bad guys.

Moral of the story: don't believe everything you read.