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  • jwest
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 3958

    Calguns Flowchart BS?

    Calgunners,

    I've been in no less than 3 local gun shops in the bay area - and in 2 cases these were the actual owners talking - that the flowchart on 'Calguns is BS - and if you base your decisions on that you're going to land in jail'. This was based on asking about ordering the Remington R-15's and R-25's. Some told me no way - even with a BB.

    What do you fellow Calgunners have to say about this?

    Regards,
    jwest
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    sorensen440
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2007
    • 8612

    The shops obviously don't know what they are talking about and have probably not even looked at the flowchart.
    The flowchart even cites the relevant penal codes

    What shops have said this ?
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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    • #3
      technique
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2008
      • 10639

      what shops.....???
      California Uber Alles, California Uber Alles
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      • #4
        jwest
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 3958

        Reed's, Sportsmen's Supply, Target Masters, Markley's In Watsonville.
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        "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --- Benjamin Franklin
        Freedom isn't free. Read the Declaration of Independence everyday - it'll keep the New World Order away.
        Quote: Army: "Your ignorant liberal puke rhetoric is tiresome."
        We live in a society of extreme behavior with no electronic self control.

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        • #5
          AlexBreya
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 953

          Can i just make a wild guess and say IMBERT AND SMITHERS??? they have that attitude, and don't realize that removable means requires a tool. they also have very little knowledge about the stuff they sell (at least in their reloading section)

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          • #6
            jwest
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 3958

            Not to change the subject completely - but does I&S have decent reloading equipment?
            sigpic
            "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --- Benjamin Franklin
            Freedom isn't free. Read the Declaration of Independence everyday - it'll keep the New World Order away.
            Quote: Army: "Your ignorant liberal puke rhetoric is tiresome."
            We live in a society of extreme behavior with no electronic self control.

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            • #7
              technique
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2008
              • 10639

              Originally posted by jwest
              Reed's, Sportsmen's Supply, Target Masters, Markley's In Watsonville.
              you went to all the wrong shops to talk about OLLs.....LOL
              California Uber Alles, California Uber Alles
              Uber Alles California, Uber Alles California

              I am Governor Jerry Brown, My aura smiles and never frowns, Soon I will be President...

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              • #8
                sorensen440
                Calguns Addict
                • Mar 2007
                • 8612

                Originally posted by technique
                you wen to all the wrong shops to talk about OLLs.....LOL
                Those are probably the worst 4 in the state LOL
                "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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                • #9
                  jwest
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 3958

                  OK - so what are the 'right' shops?
                  sigpic
                  "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --- Benjamin Franklin
                  Freedom isn't free. Read the Declaration of Independence everyday - it'll keep the New World Order away.
                  Quote: Army: "Your ignorant liberal puke rhetoric is tiresome."
                  We live in a society of extreme behavior with no electronic self control.

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                  • #10
                    technique
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 10639

                    Irvington Arms, Bay Area gun Vault. If you need a transfer in an order...Rogers Relics.
                    California Uber Alles, California Uber Alles
                    Uber Alles California, Uber Alles California

                    I am Governor Jerry Brown, My aura smiles and never frowns, Soon I will be President...

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                    • #11
                      tcrpe
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 10269

                      Originally posted by jwest
                      Not to change the subject completely - but does I&S have decent reloading equipment?
                      Question for he Thread NAZIS -- can a guy threadjack his own thread?

                      LOL -- carry on . . . .
                      Originally posted by SilverTauron
                      Considering the facts of how easily safes can be defeated, a park bench offers the same amount of protection.
                      Originally posted by loose_electron
                      PE card? LOL! Any green kid out of engineering school can get that with a few years of experience.

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                      • #12
                        anthonyca
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2008
                        • 6316

                        Originally posted by jwest
                        OK - so what are the 'right' shops?


                        This is one.
                        https://www.facebook.com/pages/Union...70812799700206

                        Originally posted by Wherryj
                        I am a physician. I am held to being "the expert" in medicine. I can't fall back on feigned ignorance and the statement that the patient should have known better than I. When an officer "can't be expected to know the entire penal code", but a citizen is held to "ignorance is no excuse", this is equivalent to ME being able to sue my patient for my own malpractice-after all, the patient should have known better, right?

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                        • #13
                          jwest
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 3958

                          I agree BAGV is one of the best to deal with - and I am also looking for reloading stuff.
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                          "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --- Benjamin Franklin
                          Freedom isn't free. Read the Declaration of Independence everyday - it'll keep the New World Order away.
                          Quote: Army: "Your ignorant liberal puke rhetoric is tiresome."
                          We live in a society of extreme behavior with no electronic self control.

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                          • #14
                            RobG
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 4887

                            Originally posted by jwest
                            Calgunners,

                            I've been in no less than 3 local gun shops in the bay area - and in 2 cases these were the actual owners talking - that the flowchart on 'Calguns is BS - and if you base your decisions on that you're going to land in jail'. This was based on asking about ordering the Remington R-15's and R-25's. Some told me no way - even with a BB.

                            What do you fellow Calgunners have to say about this?

                            Regards,
                            jwest
                            Now it is all so clear. Thats why the Gov. is letting loose all those criminals, to put all the OLL owners behind bars instead
                            Really man, do some freakin research on your own then. The flow chart is supposed to make it easy; all the research, time, and sweat has been done by those that know what they are talking about. And show me ONE case where a legally configured BB rifle has landed someone in jail. I'll be waiting..............................

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                            • #15
                              technique
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 10639

                              Originally posted by jwest
                              I agree BAGV is one of the best to deal with - and I am also looking for reloading stuff.
                              Take a trip to Reno in (I think) April, stop at Cabelas on the way to the big Reno show.....you will get lost in hands on re-loading shopping...
                              California Uber Alles, California Uber Alles
                              Uber Alles California, Uber Alles California

                              I am Governor Jerry Brown, My aura smiles and never frowns, Soon I will be President...

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