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  • #16
    IGOTDIRT4U
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    • Oct 2006
    • 10861

    Originally posted by grammaton76
    Not sure what exact configuration you mean here, but an EOtech with an NV reticle is ok if you're using it with IR goggles. Heck, mount an IR illuminator on the weapon too if you want, the actual NV gear is going to be head-mounted and not a "scope" in that case.



    Are you talking about chaining an NV scope with illumination behind a Leupold? Definitely wouldn't be ok in the configuration I'm thinking of.
    Got it. I was thinking the wrong way around.
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    • #17
      TheBundo
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 1943

      Put area-wide illuminaters all over your house, permanent, always on.
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      http://scoweb.sco.ca.gov/UCP/
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      • #18
        rabagley
        Calguns Addict
        • Apr 2008
        • 7180

        Question: so an Eotech 551 stacked with a PVS-14 is fine (if there is no IR illuminator on the rifle) for two reasons:

        1) The stack is not magnifying.
        2) The rifle does not have an IR illuminator.

        Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
        I wouldn't put an ATN on my supersoaker let alone a firearm.
        Why is that? ATN has the military contract, right? I don't see other Gen-3 NV systems with lower prices or any claims of superior performance...
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        • #19
          grammaton76
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          • Dec 2005
          • 9511

          Originally posted by rabagley
          Question: so an Eotech 551 stacked with a PVS-14 is fine (if there is no IR illuminator on the rifle) for two reasons:

          1) The stack is not magnifying.
          2) The rifle does not have an IR illuminator.
          Should be ok, although I wouldn't bet money on it not being magnifying. When I contacted posp.ru a while back, I found out that all of their NV optics magnify something like 1.1x or so.

          But yes, leaving the emitter off is enough to make it safe regardless.
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          • #20
            SchooBaka
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2007
            • 1141

            Originally posted by Quiet
            AFAIK...
            All hand held NV is good to go.

            NV mounted on firearms can not have an active IR illuminator.



            Penal Code 468
            Any person who knowingly buys, sells, receives, disposes of, conceals, or has in his possession a sniperscope shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000) or by imprisonment in the county jail for not more than one year, or by both such fine and imprisonment. As used in this section, sniperscope means any attachment, device or similar contrivance designed for or adaptable to use on a firearm which, through the use of a projected infrared light source and electronic telescope, enables the operator thereof to visually determine and locate the presence of objects during the nighttime. This section shall not prohibit the authorized use or possession of such sniperscope by a member of the armed forces of the United States or by police officers, peace officers, or law enforcement officers authorized by the properly constituted authorities for the enforcement of law or ordinances; nor shall this section prohibit the use or possession of such sniperscope when used solely for scientific research or educational purposes.
            Scientific research,
            Like studying the impact on local populations of varmints when the heard of a particular species is thinned by means other than nature?

            Educational purposes,
            Educating myself and others on the scientific methods involved in the study of varmint populations?

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              CSACANNONEER
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              • Dec 2006
              • 44092

              Originally posted by rabagley
              Question: so an Eotech 551 stacked with a PVS-14 is fine (if there is no IR illuminator on the rifle) for two reasons:

              1) The stack is not magnifying.
              2) The rifle does not have an IR illuminator.



              Why is that? ATN has the military contract, right? I don't see other Gen-3 NV systems with lower prices or any claims of superior performance...

              In the past, ATN has refused to stand behind their products. When they first started advertising scopes rated for 50BMG a few guys tried them and they broke right away. ATN would not fix them without charging for their work. It got so bad that the FCSA refuses to allow ATN to buy advertising space in any FCSA publication. I will not support a company who's doesn't stand behind their product when it is used exactly as it is advertised to be used.
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