Why do we "Bubba" out our AR's?

[Blue]

Correct me if I am wrong, but NV scoping is illegal in CA at this time, correct? So, having IR on the rail, really has no use. (or is it NV goggles are the only thing illegal?)

I think NV on a gun only applied to 1st gen NV or something weird like that. Don't quote me on it.

[sorensen440]

Correct me if I am wrong, but NV scoping is illegal in CA at this time, correct? So, having IR on the rail, really has no use. (or is it NV goggles are the only thing illegal?)

NV scopes are illegal in CA but goggles and mono's are legal IIRC

[SJgunguy24]

I didn't Bubba mine but I did get a quad rail free float handguard. It allows more airflow than the H.G. that was on my upper. I also put the Magpul XTM covers so I don't get burned.....they look cool too.

[SJgunguy24]

NV scopes are illegal in CA but goggles and mono's are legal IIRC

I thought scopes are legal as long as they are not equipped with an iluminator.

[dieselpower]

oposite thinking

I have the exact opposite thinking as most here.

When I hear the term, "Bubba AR15", I think of a 20"-24" flattop with a folding FSB, Tube FF, 10X50 scope, and a bi-pod. That's Bubba's hunting rifle.

In my thinking, "bubba" is a backwoods hunter who likes AR15s, and wants to use it that way. Which is fine. It has a sub MOA potential, semi-auto, and can be quite purdy.

The fact is, it is not a hunting rifle. Its was designed for the taking of human life in battle. If you asked Eugene Stoner to make you a hunting rifle, he would not have given you the AR15 platform. Hell, he didn't even want to give us the AR15, but was forced too.

Now given that is my line of thought on the matter. An AR15 is only as good and as useful as you need it to be.

YOUR AR15, needs to be configured as YOU need it. This is what the AR15 is.
IMHO and What I need are as follows:

20", Flat top, bi-pod, folding sights, 9X40 mil-dot, adjustable stock. This is for daytime long range engagement of threats when I have back up. This only needs a railed gas block and a bi-pod rail or attachment point.

16", Flat top, A2 standing rear sight, Standard FSB, CQB type optic, Flashlight, maybe a VFG, single and two point attachment places, battery storage, Bolt storage, 4 position stock. This is for close combat to medium range engagement of threats in daytime and nighttime. Needs a rail on the bottom, a rail on both sides: Right side for flashlight, left side for two point sling attachment, bottom is for VFG if needed. Flip sights are great, but I choose not to have to flip up a sight, I want it there when I need it. The flashlight is needed because I don't want to shoot what I can't ID. The stock is needed to adjust for what I am wearing.

16" A2, A2 stock. KISS. Daytime or nighttime engagement of threats close to medium range when I will shoot at anything that moves and kill it! The basic AR15 is everything needed for this task.

So is there is a need for the quad rails in my mind and when I see someone with everything and the kitchen sink hanging on their AR15, They must need it for something. I just wonder how long they can hold it up for

[MolonLabe2008]

rumble phish wrote:
Why do we "Bubba" out our AR's?

Because we can.

[IGOTDIRT4U]

I thought scopes are legal as long as they are not equipped with an iluminator.

I'll think I'll start a new thread. This needs to be worked out.

[Capt. Speirs]

An EOtech has enabled me to hit silhouettes at 300m offhand. Could I do it with iron sights? Probably, But the EOtech is easier on my eyes and lets me keep a field of vision.

+1, it is about the speed of the acquisition and target identification, whatever it takes for whatever situation arises, Laser, EoTech, ACOG, Surefire Lights, IR.

I think NV on a gun only applied to 1st gen NV or something weird like that. Don't quote me on it.

NV is not illegal in CA, except when hunting, I believe.

[grammaton76]

I'll think I'll start a new thread. This needs to be worked out.

Short and simple answer... if your weapon-mounted NV device either does not magnify, or does not have an illuminator, it is not prohibited in CA.

Thermal IR is legal, as is a passive collector. You can mount an IR flashlight on your head if you want, just don't mount it on the weapon.

[NeoWeird]

Short and simple answer... if your weapon-mounted NV device either does not magnify, or does not have an illuminator, it is not prohibited in CA.

Thermal IR is legal, as is a passive collector. You can mount an IR flashlight on your head if you want, just don't mount it on the weapon.

I think you are ALMOST dead on. It can not have an illuminator or be a magnified ELECTRONIC scope. IF you were to have some sort of conventional scope mounted behind or in front of a non-magnifying NV device, I believe, it would still be legal. Then again, I am not a lawyer or there may be case law against what I am saying and I could easily be wrong.

468. Any person who knowingly buys, sells, receives, disposes of, conceals, or has in his possession a sniperscope shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000) or by imprisonment in the county jail for not more than one year, or by both such fine and imprisonment. As used in this section, sniperscope means any attachment, device or similar contrivance designed for or adaptable to use on a firearm which, through the use of a projected infrared light source and electronic telescope, enables the operator thereof to visually determine and locate the presence of objects during the nighttime. This section shall not prohibit the authorized use or possession of such sniperscope by a member of the armed forces of the United States or by police officers, peace officers, or law enforcement officers authorized by the properly constituted authorities for the enforcement of law or ordinances; nor shall this section prohibit the use or possession of such sniperscope when used solely for scientific research or educational purposes.

[tankerman]

I think most folks bubba their AR's because they watch too many action movies, play too many video games and don't understand how to socialize properly, so they fantasize about being 'action hero's'. Kind of like little girls playing dress-up.

[SkatinJJ]

You say that like there's something wrong with being like a little girl playing dress up.

For my little girl, I have a Barbie AR-15. I'll not waste $ on BUIS, so it's just the EOTech 1x sight with the 1 MOA dot. Otherwise, it's featureless. It's done in pink with white flowers and I want her to have the same fun as a kid with a gun like I had.

We have tea after shooting. I rather like my hat with the flower, think I'll wear it to work...

[technique]

I bubba AKs too.....

[SDgarrick]

You say that like there's something wrong with being like a little girl playing dress up.

For my little girl, I have a Barbie AR-15. I'll not waste $ on BUIS, so it's just the EOTech 1x sight with the 1 MOA dot. Otherwise, it's featureless. It's done in pink with white flowers and I want her to have the same fun as a kid with a gun like I had.

We have tea after shooting. I rather like my hat with the flower, think I'll wear it to work...

That's quite thoughtful of you. I had my "own" gun when I was a young boy too.

[Blue]

I think most folks bubba their AR's because they watch too many action movies, play too many video games and don't understand how to socialize properly, so they fantasize about being 'action hero's'. Kind of like little girls playing dress-up.

Sad but true!!