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  • JP1805
    Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 105

    BSIS Firearm Training Question

    When teaching the BSIS Exposed Firearm Course, BSIS requires the students to manipulate real handguns when teaching how to disassemble, clean, and inspect handguns. For some reason I was told that having students handle realistic Airsoft guns in the classroom is not allowed; the students must use real handguns.

    Since I want to be safe in the classroom I think that I could use real handguns that have been modified for training to not fire real ammo. I have already asked BSIS this question but could not get a straight answer. How do you other BSIS instructors handle this issue in your classes?

    Does anyone know where to buy handguns that have been modified to use in training?
  • #2
    CouchOperator
    Veteran Member
    • May 2016
    • 4353

    Originally posted by JP1805
    When teaching the BSIS Exposed Firearm Course, BSIS requires the students to manipulate real handguns when teaching how to disassemble, clean, and inspect handguns. For some reason I was told that having students handle realistic Airsoft guns in the classroom is not allowed; the students must use real handguns.

    Since I want to be safe in the classroom I think that I could use real handguns that have been modified for training to not fire real ammo. I have already asked BSIS this question but could not get a straight answer. How do you other BSIS instructors handle this issue in your classes?

    Does anyone know where to buy handguns that have been modified to use in training?

    Strip the mag, inspect the chamber, remove the firing pin if you must, and rock on dude. At what point do you expect a weapon to be pointed at you, really? Serious question. Because if its a real concern, they are outside of their lane and need to be stripped of their credentials immediately

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    • #3
      ElvenSoul
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Apr 2008
      • 17431

      Innert Ammo

      Have you ever bought a gun in CA and had to demonstrate?
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      • #4
        thcrusadr
        Banned
        • Dec 2016
        • 134

        Why do it in the classroom? Do ut on the range

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        • #5
          ElvenSoul
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Apr 2008
          • 17431

          If I remember correctly this was added because of a bunch of ND's at the Commerce Casino. They claimed they where just cleaning their guns.
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          • #6
            JP1805
            Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 105

            Originally posted by CouchOperator
            Strip the mag, inspect the chamber, remove the firing pin if you must, and rock on dude. At what point do you expect a weapon to be pointed at you, really? Serious question. Because if its a real concern, they are outside of their lane and need to be stripped of their credentials immediately
            I have seen students do all kinds of crazy things with firearms. I feel it is better to be safe than sorry. I appreciate the response, though.

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            • #7
              JP1805
              Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 105

              Originally posted by ElvenSoul
              Innert Ammo

              Have you ever bought a gun in CA and had to demonstrate?
              I like the inert ammo idea, but I will be having 25 students every two weeks handling these handguns. I am also worried about wear, tear, and possible damage to the guns.

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              • #8
                JP1805
                Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 105

                Originally posted by thcrusadr
                Why do it in the classroom? Do ut on the range
                I like this idea, also. I will look into that.

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                • #9
                  blkside
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 1301

                  Originally posted by JP1805
                  Does anyone know where to buy handguns that have been modified to use in training?
                  Here is the answer to the question you asked.

                  You don't need to buy firearms, you can purchase the conversion kits.

                  Safe gun handling is paramount and completely understand your approach.

                  http://simunition.com/en/products/co...kits/1-pistols
                  Originally posted by TonyNorCal
                  If I'm going to spend money to touch a woman then it's going to be at a Nevada brothel, on Craiglist hooker, or trolling the streets in a camper van.

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