New Casings

[Scratch705]

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/11/04/shell-shock-cases-tools-now-shipping/

Was just browsing around TFB and say a weekly recap video that included this little nifty thing.

New casings made with nickle plated aluminum.

pros:
lighter than brass
magnetic (no more bending over to pick up casings for reloaders)
less stretching so case trimming is reduced
cheaper than brass

cons:
9mm only
new reloading tools needed

looks like this could be the new thing that will finally make brass be on the decline.

[Bigtwin]

Lol....not gonna happen.

[Scratch705]

Lol....not gonna happen.

Creedmore already started producing ammo using this new casing

I guess reloaders would be the first big user base since the loaded ammo is hp currently, which wont get that many sales

Wonder if they tried to partner with like freedom munitions on their new ammo loads. Although FM is selling their steel casing for 9mm as the cheap alternative

[heidad01]

"Not gonna happen" is it. That is if we are talking about replacing brass cases in any significant %age.
Would it sell some as a new thing to try? Sure. Kind of like the .40 cal. It is there but not near stream.
Just my .02 cents.

[Bigedski]

I would never pay that much for brass, I get 1000-.45 for $60, sometimes less.

[kcheung2]

I'm a bit confused by some of those supposed advantages. One of the advantages of brass is that it does stretch/expand so that it seals the chamber, and then immediately contracts back to ease extraction. The fact that case trimming is needed is an unfortunate side effect that's accepted because it otherwise performs so well in the chamber. But the claimed advantages of not expanding, being cheaper, and magnetic, well why not use steel then? It has all those properties & is even cheaper.

There is already Blazer aluminum 9mm, and it's worked fine in my guns but there's also a large population that doesn't want to use aluminum in their guns. It's a bit cheaper than brass so that's a selling point, but people looking for the cheapest ammo are buying steel cased.

There's also been nickel-plated brass around for a while but it's a niche product. I've tossed the cases I encountered, but supposedly it is reloadable. From what I've read it can't be reloaded as often as regular brass, something about being too brittle.

So if they combine the unpopular nickel plating and the unpopular aluminum cases, somehow they'll get something people want?

[Jak Nobody]

I'm a bit confused by some of those supposed advantages. One of the advantages of brass is that it does stretch/expand so that it seals the chamber, and then immediately contracts back to ease extraction. The fact that case trimming is needed is an unfortunate side effect that's accepted because it otherwise performs so well in the chamber. But the claimed advantages of not expanding, being cheaper, and magnetic, well why not use steel then? It has all those properties & is even cheaper.

There is already Blazer aluminum 9mm, and it's worked fine in my guns but there's also a large population that doesn't want to use aluminum in their guns. It's a bit cheaper than brass so that's a selling point, but people looking for the cheapest ammo are buying steel cased.

There's also been nickel-plated brass around for a while but it's a niche product. I've tossed the cases I encountered, but supposedly it is reloadable. From what I've read it can't be reloaded as often as regular brass, something about being too brittle.

So if they combine the unpopular nickel plating and the unpopular aluminum cases, somehow they'll get something people want?

Supposedly allows for more reloads than brass, is magnetic to allow for easy pick up, and the primers are easier to remove/replace.

Time will tell if it is worth it.

[Lonestargrizzly]

I would never pay that much for brass, I get 1000-.45 for $60, sometimes less.

How do you do that?!?

[kcheung2]

^ here's a guy selling used brass for that cheap. There's prob a few others with similar prices.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1081204

Anyway, primers are already easy to remove. Never heard of someone complaining about primers being hard to pop out. And as for getting more reloads than brass, this is for 9mm...My attrition on 9mm cases is more due to loss than to wear.

As for magnetic, I admit I'm not a metallurgist but "nickel plated aluminum head with a nickel alloy body" doesn't sound magnetic.

If this takes off then good for them, but I'll stick to brass for the foreseeable future.

[pacrat]

The element Nickel (Ni) is one of the few ferromagnetic metals. Ferromagnetic means they are attracted to magnets and can be magnetized themselves. Most metals aren't magnetic with the exception of iron, nickel, cobalt, gadolinium, neodymium and samarium.

Snitched from Google search.

[heidad01]

Another draw back is that 99 out of every 100 gun rangrs will not allow you to shoot anything magnetic or aluminum casings. That will kill it for most. At least in Calif.